COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 1234

7 messages over 51m, 2021-04-12 – 2021-04-12.

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  1. 2021-04-12 16:30 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.696
    Finally had some time to read the pangolin paper in Frontiers. It's a shit paper, but the findings seem solid enough -~10% of tested pangolins (in a single zoo in Guangdong) positive for SARS(2)-like CoVs. That's pretty nuts. Totalconvenience sampling too and they didn't go after these specifically - I think pangolins might just be packed full ofCoVs, which is bloody scary.https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2021.657439/full
  2. 2021-04-12 16:33 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.696
    SARS, of course, broke out in Guangdong. I wonder if we're blind because we're focusing so much on bats in Yunnan - is it possible these guys are coming from pangolins?
  3. 2021-04-12 16:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.696
    No doubt in my mind that pangolins are major reservoirs. That's what Tommy and Linfa see as well. And it won't justbe bats and pangolins.
  4. 2021-04-12 16:35 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.696
    Wasn't there a zoo behind the Huanan market too? Any idea if they had pangolins?
  5. 2021-04-12 16:36 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.697
    I'll check with that reporter
  6. 2021-04-12 17:20 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.697
    This was from one of his earlier emails "If it was pangolins infected by bats, there are lots of these little "holdingpens" on the pangolin underground railroad in China, often mixed in with other wildlife breeding. Was at one inGuangdong a couple years back where they had some, but apparently had just moved them a week or so before wegot there. Everyone around that we spoke with knew they kept pangolins there."
  7. 2021-04-12 17:21 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.697
    Interesting....