Private channel session 1200
13 messages over 43m, 2021-04-05 – 2021-04-05.
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Brilliant Eddie - Well done!
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He did a good job. Of course, I meant to say that I might NOT be allowed back into China...
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Got this from another journo....very interesting:
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I've been following the wildlife farms part of this from the start [and before that on other stories]. It does not appear there was much of an effort to check captive bred wildlife facilities. 31 farms in Hubei, with about 3,000 animals, were checked. 27,000 sample from "wildlife" across China, but a large part of that appears to be zoo animals if you check the annexes. There's one prefecture with about four counties in it in Western Hubei that had 290 farms and450,000 animals alone at the start of the outbreak. Why would Chinese authorities not check more farms but prepared to shut down so many of them [on the raising for meat consumption side]? Anyone here you think would beable to address that? I'm also confused by the WHO report from November which said their were live wild mammals present at the market prior to Dec. 31, 2019 and the latest study team report which takes the market authority and one Huanan manager'sword for it that there were no live wild mammals at the market at that time. The people who owned Huanan market owned a much larger market in Huangpi, offering similar products. I've not been given a satisfactory answer why this market wasn't investigated. The owner of the Huanan market and this other market himself is quite problematic from a potential wildlifetrafficking perspective, but I can't say much about what I know there at the moment. Just curious if you'd heard anything at all about the ultimate owner [his daughter runs the market, but he owns it]. They were there when the WHO team was there at Huanan, but apparently no one talked to them. Got to get my kids to school. Happy to talk more if you are open to it.Best, SLACK_000894 Michael Michael Standaert(imShenzhen, China
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Yeah, this is very interesting. I do think there's a lot missing from the "market" aspect of this whole story - did they ordid they not have live mammals? Where exactly were animals sourced from? Were all those farms tested?
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've already found out exactly there this virus comes from.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they have some very strong clues... But whether they have fully nailed it, I'm not so sure. I'm pretty convinced the obfuscation has to do with this though - they could care less about a lab leak, but if this is aresult of wildlife farming and borderline illegal activities, then that's a problem domestically and internationally.
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Exactly! I couldn't agree more.
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Hoping to get some journos to dig into this.
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Yeah, that's what we need - also, anonymous interviews with people who might have been at the market in November/December.
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Totally. The whole WIV thing is a distraction from the real story.
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More confidential stuff from this journo. All very curious:
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"The other bigger market owned by the family that owns Huanan is interesting. I've been out there three times now. There are security guards at the office doors and all over the market. I was able to get in once and speak with a fewvendors who had moved there from Huanan, but they didn't want to say much since I'm American. Had you ever heard about the Huanan owner at all? He's basically known as a "respected thug" or "big brother" and has a lot of friends in high places in Wuhan. I've been investigating the 60 or so companies his family owns.The parents of the first known case went to a wet market, but so far I've not seen the name of this place mentioned. There were of course a bunch of other cases around that time that weren't counted because they were never tested, but likely Covid. Daszak mentioned this place in a couple interviews, but apparently they weren't told the name...*Soplease keep this to yourself for now.* He is/was a major, major gambler. I've got court documents from a case inAustralia where he tried to sue a casino there since he lost so much several years back.My big question now is whether he has ties to some of these Laos/Myanmar/Cambodia border zones where there'sso much gambling and other illicit activity, including heavy wildlife trafficking. Know anyone expert in the activities inthose zones?If it was pangolins infected by bats, there are lots of these little "holding pens" on the pangolin underground railroadin China, often mixed in with other wildlife breeding. Was at one in Guangdong a couple years back where they had some, but apparently had just moved them a week or so before we got there. Everyone around that we spoke with knew they kept pangolins there.