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Private channel session 1145

20 messages over 3h 21m, 2021-03-23 – 2021-03-23.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-03-23 12:25 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    They are so dishonest - purposefully misquoting Shi. [shared file(s): image.png, image.png]
  2. 2021-03-23 12:26 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    Of course, it would not matter what Shi said - they would claim victory anyway.
  3. 2021-03-23 12:50 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    Not sure what happened here - WashPost. [shared file(s): Where Are We in Finding the Coronavirus's Origin_ - The Washington Post.pdf]
  4. 2021-03-23 13:36 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    I occurred to me that while we live in a country with freedom of speech it's not clear to me how the Metzl feels that itwas appropriate to hijack Shi's scientific talk to promote his future books and speaking engagements.
  5. 2021-03-23 13:44 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.622
    Military research. So idiotic. The reality is that the only shot the west had at looking at WIV was the WHO trip and that was a one off. People like the WaPo can moan all they like but there's no way China will let another team in. All this posturing may sell books but it's game over when it comes to finding out what they had.
  6. 2021-03-23 14:00 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    The SC2 positive grate under your raccoon dog cage is all I really care about at this point. Plus I am pretty sure Iheard that most of the other SC2 positive environmental swabs were taken the stalls where they sold the live animals. That's a pretty big coincidence - the virus leaked from the WIV precisely all the way to that grate that had just been under a live animal that just happened to be in a market selling wild animals. I predict another move of thegoalposts however - CCP must have planted the samples there.
  7. 2021-03-23 14:32 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.622
    Completely agree. Balls in WHO's court now.
  8. 2021-03-23 15:04 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl/status/1374473337749958667
  9. 2021-03-23 15:07 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    shared file(s): image.png
  10. 2021-03-23 15:08 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.622
    The DoS materials mention some joint publications. Tell me how that translates to "secret."
  11. 2021-03-23 15:13 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.622
    Deranged
  12. 2021-03-23 15:19 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.623
    The idiots are running loose. And not just Jamie. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-23 at 15.19.08.png]
  13. 2021-03-23 15:20 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.623
    Can somebody please tell me how this is _any_ different from natural emergence? Because it's associated with research activity? A very specific low probability event compared to the alternative scenario... It's so dumb.
  14. 2021-03-23 15:22 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.623
    Of course Alex is there to give Marc Lipsitch a statistics lecture... Love this guy. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-23 at 15.21.05.png]
  15. 2021-03-23 15:23 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.623
    He's so good
  16. 2021-03-23 15:27 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.623
    He really is - and I mean, a PhD student teaching one of the most prominent statisticians (at Harvard...) the basicsof statistics is pretty, well, ballsy.
  17. 2021-03-23 15:30 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.623
    It's not snarky though - to his credit. It's delivered in a scientific way. Not like the total BS spewed out by a certain Broad Post-Doc [alignment/assembly tweet comes to mind].
  18. 2021-03-23 15:31 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.623
    ballsy>>>snarky
  19. 2021-03-23 15:33 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.623
    I like to do both, although, I probably do snarky more often these days. I think my response to Alina's "alignment<> assembly" was firmly in the latter category
  20. 2021-03-23 15:47 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.623
    The guy that Pompeo is relying on for his information about WIV is the same guy (Asher) that thinks that pangolinsmated with bats. Jamie is using "information" gathered by Asher and politicized by Pompeo to build all of his littlestraw men.