COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 665

16 messages over 1h 12m, 2020-12-10 – 2020-12-10.

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  1. 2020-12-10 07:11 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.306
    :scream_cat:https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1817796# [shared file(s): image.png]
  2. 2020-12-10 07:15 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.306
    Gotta love the graphical abstract!
  3. 2020-12-10 07:19 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    Any fur farming around there?
  4. 2020-12-10 07:25 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    This is not going well... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/10/decomposing-mink-in-denmark-may-have-contaminated-groundwa ter
  5. 2020-12-10 07:26 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    The response to seeing 12 patients with 4 spike mutations perhaps was a bit rash...
  6. 2020-12-10 07:27 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    And that is a pretty grim picture
  7. 2020-12-10 07:43 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    Yeah, they really didn't handle that well... That said, the culling was absolutely the right thing to do IMO.
  8. 2020-12-10 07:46 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    I do agree. But using the 'scary' spike mutation as a reason was not good.
  9. 2020-12-10 07:46 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    But perhaps it was necessary to get it done politically
  10. 2020-12-10 07:47 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    Yeah, that was really dumb. To be honest though - I think it was the only way they could get the politicians to wakeup, so they used it as an excuse.
  11. 2020-12-10 07:47 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    Hah. There you go :wink:
  12. 2020-12-10 07:48 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    I remember when the UK banned mink farming. There was generally widespread support for getting rid of it.
  13. 2020-12-10 07:48 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.307
    But just because it was a shit industry supplying posh people
  14. 2020-12-10 07:49 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    Same in Denmark - that's the crazy part. All of a sudden people seem to have forgotten that the mink industry isculling millions of mink every year for fur coats... People are not logical.
  15. 2020-12-10 07:51 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.307
    I suspect this'll be the end of the industry in Denmark though - which is a good thing. The Netherlands already had those plans in place prior to COVID, so that made their culling decision a little easier.
  16. 2020-12-10 08:23 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.308
    Hopefully this will be used as a teaching moment - that SC2 is mostly a respiratory virus and that masks and socialdistancing are the best way to prevent spread. Handwashing sure, but fomites are a minor route. That out of mysystem, I completely support this: https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-disinfected-after-trump-exit-1553725