COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 627

7 messages over 30m, 2020-11-30 – 2020-11-30.

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  1. 2020-11-30 12:18 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.285
    My colleagues in China confirm that there is an active push to say that the virus originated elsewhere, particularly Italy. Very bad.
  2. 2020-11-30 12:24 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.285
    NY Times are doing a story on the Chinese misinformation as well I believe.
  3. 2020-11-30 12:24 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.285
    Ohhh boy - this'll not help China's standing in the world and will further fuel conspiracies.
  4. 2020-11-30 12:25 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.285
    Very stupid for all the reasons you say. They are really flexing their muscles.
  5. 2020-11-30 12:27 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.285
    I really don't understand this angle. If I was in their shoes I'd focus on "rapid detection", "alerted the world quickly", and "we have shown how to bring it under control". Ample space to tweak key events to fit the CCP agenda...
  6. 2020-11-30 12:28 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.285
    I agree. It's a big error of judgement.
  7. 2020-11-30 12:48 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.285
    The Guardian did a decent job - hopefully NYTimes does it right as well. Speaking from my narrow perspective the worst part is the amateur serology. Cross-reactivity information is actually quite important, but those studies have tobe done very carefully and interpreted even more carefully. No way though the serology tells you that SC2 was inItaly before China.