Private channel session 78

8 messages over 13m, 2020-05-23 – 2020-05-23.

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2020-05-23 14:24 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.35

Just a had a thought: for the GVP to work they would have to sequence gazillions of viruses. Then, to work out which of these might infect humans, they would then have to test them all in a range of human cells. We previously pointed out the crazy enormity of this task. But, it's not just size: what they are effectively proposed are 100,000s ofGoF experiments for viruses that could potentially infect humans. Even if we don't think the virus came out of a lab, surely this is now an unacceptable risk?
2020-05-23 14:31 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.35

That's a very good point Eddie - needs to see the light of day.
2020-05-23 14:31 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.35

Not quite sure how to say it without encouraging the lab escape crowd for the current outbreak?
2020-05-23 14:32 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.35

Exactly - that's why I haven't said anything :wink:
2020-05-23 14:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.35

Your ahead of me Kristian. I think more about how this can be done.
2020-05-23 14:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.35

Mi in Mandarin. Just tweet "I think Pete's R01 led to this pandemic and funding GVP would lead to more. Thanks @RealDonaldTrump for defunding. #Chinesevirus #MAGA [link to our paper]".
2020-05-23 14:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.36

(since 65k is apparently our goal now...)
2020-05-23 14:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.36

Great idea! Just going to login as one of my postdocs.