Slack / Private Message Drop — page 938

[2021-06-09 16:26:57] [Kristian Andersen] Talking about turds. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-09 at 16.26.07.png] [2021-06-09 16:27:39] [Eddie Holmes] Makes me sick. [2021-06-09 16:36:54] [Eddie Holmes] But I'm just a China stooge [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-10 at 9.35.09 am.png] [2021-06-09 16:46:02] [Robert Garry] eDim is polluting the twitter with his rhetoric. [2021-06-09 16:50:11] [Eddie Holmes] Yes, pure hate. I'd take my CV down but then I'll just get accused of covering things up. [2021-06-09 17:03:27] [Kristian Andersen] Bob / Eddie (and Andrew - but I assume he's :zzz:) - any chance the two of you would have time to take a quick look at a document I'm preparing for Jim / NYTimes. It's about recent events and it's the only interview I'll take, so just want to make sure I don't get anything wrong. [2021-06-09 17:03:48] [Eddie Holmes] Sure, pass it on. [2021-06-09 17:04:12] [Kristian Andersen] Thanks - just shared the doc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7T48AATRUu2ItnzDqIBaakxDYSVGWlwAXYzAZz7dhU/edit?usp=sharing [2021-06-09 17:35:19] [Eddie Holmes] Looks good. A few things: (i) our Nature Medicine article was not an official policy document or an official statement - it was a just a scientific paper by a group of scientists; (ii) he is focused on one line in the paper but we also clearly say that is 'currently impossible' to prove or disprove other theories so were obviously open to more data and changing evidence; (iii) might say that the pangolin data - which coincidentally appeared at the same time because I was an author on the Lam et al. paper - was very helpful in suggesting a natural origin; (iv) it's ludicrous to suggest that our paper shut down research into a lab escape as the govt bodies were obviously still going on with this. If scientists want to publish counter data/evidence they had ever right to. We're not stopping them. We don't control and police the whole field. We are being assigned some sort of power that we just don't have!! [2021-06-09 17:37:27] [Kristian Andersen] Very good, thanks Eddie. Yeah, it's ludicrous to suggest we somehow shut down the conversation - come on! Race to the bottom. [2021-06-09 17:41:28] [Eddie Holmes] Agreed. That point needs to be made very clearly and very strongly. [2021-06-09 19:14:15]