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[2021-05-14 07:00:03] [Andrew Rambaut] Do we want to give it to David at this stage? [2021-05-14 07:02:46] [Kristian Andersen] No I don't think so - but we can pull out a few of the "best hits" and include in the email reply to him. [2021-05-14 07:03:36] [Kristian Andersen] I was planning on doing a Twitter thread based on it too so we have somewhere to point to - I have found this to be exceptionally useful. [2021-05-14 07:21:16] [Robert Garry] Just throwing this out: One way to break a summary down is: 1. evidence for natural origin 2. evidence against lab origin or some variation of this. [2021-05-14 07:28:30] [Robert Garry] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-the-coronavirus-come-directly-from-animal[...]cientists-join-call-for-ans wers/ar-BB1gJ2IO?ocid=BingNewsSearch "But Bloom said there is simply not enough evidence yet to draw such a conclusion. He sees three possible origin stories for SARS-CoV-2. First - and here he agrees with Gostin - it originated in bats and jumped directly to humans or into another animal and then into humans. Bloom said he can't rule out two other possibilities: that someone in a lab in Wuhan, China, was studying the virus, collected from a bat or another animal, and accidentally released it, infecting people; or that it was an intentional release by a researcher working with the virus. "Regardless of which occurred," Bloom said, "it would be really scientifically beneficial, and I think also beneficial for our ability to understand and prevent future pandemics, to really understand the initial events." Really kind of troubling IMO. Either of Bloom's two possibilities are accusations of cover-up and conspiracy. [2021-05-14 07:46:31] [Robert Garry] Seriously - what freaking scientific data [hell even other data] does JB think is going to get to inform his two other possibilities? Also - I would like to know who that researcher was that did "intentional release." Mo******ker knows more about viral pathogenesis than anyone on the planet! [2021-05-14 07:47:54] [USLACKBOT] [thread - ID: 2021-05-14 07:47:54] @USLACKBOT This message was deleted. [2021-05-14 07:52:23] [Robert Garry] https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/not-acceptable-wuhan-scientist-hits[...]d19-origin-claims/news-st ory/5f9c6e80eeb1806c670841a45ea33fbc pretty good report [2021-05-14 07:53:50] [Robert Garry] [thread - ID: 2021-05-14 07:47:54] @USLACKBOT ABSOLUTELY - it's not science! Bloom is accusing WIV of bioterrorism. [2021-05-14 07:59:24] [Andrew Rambaut] I would be interested what Jesse would say if you just posted the list of scientists working at WIV and ask which of these people he thought might have deliberately leaked the virus. Or are they all equally plausible