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[2020-10-25 14:48:37] [Eddie Holmes] Seems she is directly accusing me. I think I will email Lander. Is there an email address that he might answer. [2020-10-25 14:49:00] [Eddie Holmes] Very close to slander. [2020-10-25 14:56:29] [Kristian Andersen] It's crossed multiple lines by now. Eric is both at and . Might want to cc Pardis since you know her... (she's ) [2020-10-25 15:22:40] [Eddie Holmes] [thread - ID: 2020-10-24 16:21:44] @Eddie Holmes Indeed, EVERY PNAS paper I have reviewed has been shite. Doing another one now. [2020-10-25 15:30:29] [Eddie Holmes] Thanks! Multiple lines indeed. The Li preprint was posted in June. The authors got in touch with me because they wanted help to get the paper published and it do it correctly as they got a real bashing the 1st time around (they were the 99% similar crew). In correspondence with them it's clear that they are totally straight but rather naive. They don't normally bat this high up. In this paper they clear show the pangolins are sick and they Sanger sequenced the spike protein. All good. I also made them make the provenance of the sequences completely clear (i.e. part of the same outbreak). I don't see anything nefarious in here at all (how the fuck can you fake the CT scan of a pangolin lung - Tippex?). The paper got decent reviews at Nature Microbiology but the Chinese authorities are not letting them publish it because of the loss of face the first time around. Good work Inspector Clouseau. I've not been in touch with them for a while now so I'll see what's the latest. [2020-10-25 16:01:07] [Eddie Holmes] The complicating thing about Alina though is that she has clearly gone mad and you are watching this process in real time [2020-10-25 16:13:55] [Andrew Rambaut] Might be worth asking Pardis for any internal insight before formally going to Lander? Danny Park follows her so presumably sees what is going on. [2020-10-25 16:48:09] [Kristian Andersen] Let me see if I can get a hold of Pardis and Danny - we have a meeting on Wednesday. We have gone full conspiracy by now and the Broad name (of which both Bob and I are always members) are being dragged through this as well. She's alleging both misconduct and conspiracy - against some very well-known scientists. And, of course, all completely bullshit by an amateur who has never done this type of work. I know how my institution would handle it - I don't think the Broad wants to be part of this either... [2020-10-25 16:52:28] [Kristian Andersen] .... not to mention - accusing reviewers of her technical comment of being being complicit in the death of millions... seems fair enough. [2020-10-25 17:07:15] [Eddie Holmes]