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[Kristian Andersen]
We could also write to Ralph on his Proton email - "Dear Ralph [...]"...
Sorry, but I feel like having some 'fun' here. I'm offended by this email and I'm not known for just taking the
punches...
[2020-07-28 19:33:29]
[Eddie Holmes]
Let me sleep on it as well. I would be good to be proactive, but we don't want to drop anyone else in the shit.
[2020-07-28 23:04:34]
[Eddie Holmes]
Notice the use of the word 'coronavirologists' in this tweet and the anonymous email. [shared file(s): Screen Shot
2020-07-29 at 4.03.00 pm.png]
[2020-07-28 23:07:12]
[Eddie Holmes]
Perhaps we should all block in on Twitter just to let him know we know
[2020-07-29 04:55:59]
[Robert Garry]
"My point is that if Jon ignores him, will he send it to some other journo?" Eddie - you are a very wise man. Yes -
Deep Throat WILL peddle - or already has - his fiction elsewhere - not to mention peddling the slander/libel on every
barstool he sits on for the rest of his life [assuming anyone gets to sit on barstools again of course]. My prior
experience with Joseph Fair* tells me the story will only get further and further embellished - so raising the issue with
Clare makes perfect sense. Breach of review ethics is VERY serious. I'd be surprised if undark, slate etc has not
already gotten the protonmail. I think we can assume DT is shopping this around as we speak. Imagine if an idiot
reporter - like for ex Emmanuel Freudenthal - gets wind of this. On the other hand Amy Maxmen or other nature
reporter might take the breach of review ethics seriously.
[2020-07-29 05:00:11]
[Robert Garry]
*BTW - you can't spell CovID-NInEtEen FRaUd without curefinder.
[2020-07-29 05:07:46]
[Andrew Rambaut]
I very much doubt he (who ever it is) will let it lie. But it is not clear what we can do.
[2020-07-29 05:28:41]
[Robert Garry]
Be prepared to counter-punch with the E/K email - inform potentially affected parties beyond Farrar [Fauci, Colllins.
Nature editors, etc} another possibility.
[2020-07-29 07:19:56]
[Robert Garry]
Is it too snarky to point out that the main conclusion of Baric's first SARS-CoV-2 paper rushed out in March is 180
degrees wrong? They wrote: "Compared to previously isolated SARS-CoV strains, 2019-nCoV likely uses human
ACE2 *less* efficiently than human SARS-CoV (year 2002) but more efficiently than human SARS-CoV (year
2003)." IIRC wE nearly fell for this but fortunately, before we finalized "proximal Origins" new data came out showing
the opposite. https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/7/e00127-20.long
[2020-07-29 07:34:23]
[Kristian Andersen]
Wouldn't be the first time he was wrong :wink:.
I think contacting Clare is the right move - this is pretty serious and we need to counterpunch. I emailed Tony
already and he's seen our draft emails - we haven't heard back as I'm sure he's much much too busy (that guy
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