Tony's Diary Package — page 194

Image Dr. Anthony Fauci during a news briefing on the AIDS epidemic in 1989.Credit...Bettmann, via Getty Images Over the years, they were often asked to appear together, often on television news programs. "We were on ABC's 'Nightline' and Ted Koppel asked me about AZT," Dr. Fauci said, referring to the first anti-H.I-V. drug. "And Larry said, "You guys in the government don't know anything. You've got it all wrong!" Dr. Fauci would get in a cab to go home, and later the phone would ring. "It would be Larry saying, 'How do you think we did?' I'd say, 'Larry, you just trashed me in front of 10 million people." "And he'd say, 'Oh, I was just trying to get some attention." As they became friends, Mr. Kramer tried to push Dr. Fauci into joining him in activism. "During the administration of George H.W. Bush, he told me, "Tony, you should chain yourself to the gates of the White House," Dr. Fauci said. "I said, 'Larry, how would that help? I can go talk to President Bush any time. He's a friend.' Would you like recommendations for more stories like this? Yes "He said, 'You should still do it."