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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.61 · baric_ti:utt:00488

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Clark Ervin
Topics
Intelligence community assessments
I think it would be better to discuss it in the classified session, since there's going to be a classified session anyway.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    also stepped down from that committee at some point. I don't remember the exact date, but he stepped down from it, yeah.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Also we've confirmed --
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I'm sorry I just mentioned his name, if you'd redact that.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    We will redact that. I don't want there to be any confusion. We've looked at NARA documents that are publicly available online that mention the ODNI DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Biological Science Expert Group. And this isn't on you, but there's this secrecy about this group that has caused a lot of confusion and frustration probably among you, as well. But this isn't classified, and I am fine to hold back our questions, generally, on that until later, even ones that aren't classified, just so everyone feels comfortable. But we will be going through a classification review of that transcript, and it's not classified, so I just want to flag that. But I think we have made it public, sir. Are you at least comfortable talking about the presentation here, the presentation that was given? It was public.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Clark Ervin
    I think it would be better to discuss it in the classified session, since there's going to be a classified session anyway.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Clark Ervin open
    We have 4 1/2 hours --
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Can I just ask, that presentation, did you present three different potential origin options?
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Yes.

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