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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.60 · baric_ti:utt:00479

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric
Topics: Intelligence community assessments

So certainly when BSEG started it was not classified. But I recall being told it was classified sometime later.

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So certainly when BSEG started it was not classified.

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But I recall being told it was classified sometime later.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Clark Ervin open

Let's see what the question is.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Yeah. I think that's fair. BSEG is not classified. We've had this conversation with -- and this isn't on you, but, you know, people like to talk about it like it's classified. It's not classified.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Can I ask a point of clarification?
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Mm-hmm. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

So certainly when BSEG started it was not classified. But I recall being told it was classified sometime later.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

I'm not going to use the individual's name, but I'll just show you the name. This is an individual who is on that committee, who is, that is his law firm website that publicly says that he is a member. So that's one of many examples.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yeah, he was certainly a member early on, and early on in BSEG they actually encouraged people to put their membership on that committee. And then later there was discussions that said that they wanted us to strip all that off of our material.
2026-04-10 09:00 Clark Ervin open

And just to note, this is a March 2015 doc.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Right.