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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.52 · baric_ti:utt:00403

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

We have a grant that is pending at NIH right now, 2 percentile, that is paused right now. We're waiting to see, from what I understand, of whether or not there's a potential GOF experiment in it or not.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

And Fang Li would've been on it. So there are two Fang Li grants, one that I led that he was co-PI on and one that he led that I was co-PI on. We can provide you with those numbers, but I can't tell you what they are off the top of my head.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And what's your relationship with Fang Li?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

He's a friend.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

A friend. Okay. And you've all worked together so you all have grants together?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

We have a grant that is pending at NIH right now, 2 percentile, that is paused right now. We're waiting to see, from what I understand, of whether or not there's a potential GOF experiment in it or not.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

A potential what?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Gain-of-function experiment.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Oh, okay. So it's under the gain-of22 function pause.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Well, as told to me, as told to Fang Li, actually, there is one experiment that they think needs to be reviewed by the new committee that is formed after the DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Trump administration formed that committee.

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