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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.49 · baric_ti:utt:00376

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Christina Salazar
So is there a reason why that correction wasn't issued until 2020?

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Not that I know of.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. So here's the email. Your response is dated November 7, 2015, and it's back to Dr. Shi. [Exhibit No. 1 shown.]
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And you asked her, "Was work performed under these grants?" So did she not answer? Because it looks like the initial email was from Peter Daszak that same day and it says, "Urgent. Please acknowledge USAID DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com PREDICT and our NIAID grant in the paper with Ralph Baric." And she does ask you to do that.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Well, if she asked me to do it, then I would've done that, yes.
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar
    So is there a reason why that correction wasn't issued until 2020?
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Not that I know of.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. Was it an attempt conceal the USAID funding?
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know why I would have any interest in doing that.
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. Was that the only USAID -- I mean, part of this is it's hard for us to understand, too, because it seems like there are different funding streams that all contribute, for very different work, and, you know, I don't know if you're familiar with my boss's questions to Samantha Power on this, but he asked her if USAID funding had ever -- let's see, I have it here. I don't want to misstate it -- I mean, he said, "Does USAID fund gain-of-function research? We have no evidence that USAID has funded gain-of-function research, and we certainly have not authorized gain-of-function research." Then Senator Paul talked about the paper, and her response was that she just said, unequivocally, that USAID has not authorized gain-of-function research. Do you agree with DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com her statement?

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