Transcript segment

Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.8-9 · baric_ti:utt:00017

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Christina Salazar, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Harry Kazenoff
Topics: Intelligence community assessments Media strategy and public messaging

This interview will be conducted in two parts. The first portion of the interview will be conducted in an unclassified setting. Only unclassified information will be discussed during the first portion. We will not intentionally ask a question during the first portion of the interview that we believe could implicate classified information. However, if a question is asked that would require you to disclose classified information in your answer, or if you are genuinely unsure, please state that for the record and we will re-ask the question in the second portion of the interview. At noon, we will recess and the witness and properly cleared majority staff and witness counsel will relocate to the Office of Senate Security where the second portion of the interview will be conducted in a sensitive DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com compartmented information facility. Do you have any questions about how we plan to proceed?

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
The first portion of the interview will be conducted in an unclassified setting.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
Only unclassified information will be discussed during the first portion.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
We will not intentionally ask a question during the first portion of the interview that we believe could implicate classified information.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
However, if a question is asked that would require you to disclose classified information in your answer, or if you are genuinely unsure, please state that for the record and we will re-ask the question in the second portion of the interview.	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	asserts

Statement

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Attribution

Stance

The first portion of the interview will be conducted in an unclassified setting.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

Only unclassified information will be discussed during the first portion.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

We will not intentionally ask a question during the first portion of the interview that we believe could implicate classified information.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

However, if a question is asked that would require you to disclose classified information in your answer, or if you are genuinely unsure, please state that for the record and we will re-ask the question in the second portion of the interview.

needs context

uncertain explicit hedge

asserts

In context

A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

2026-04-10 09:00 Harry Kazenoff open

For each counsel, please state and DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com spell your full name and identify the client you're representing.
2026-04-10 09:00 Clark Ervin open

I'm Clark Kent Ervin with Squire Patton Boggs, and I'm Counsel to the University for purposes of this interview with Dr. Baric.
2026-04-10 09:00 David T. Lambeth III open

David Lambeth, Counsel for UNC Chapel Hill and Dr. Baric as an employee.
2026-04-10 09:00 Jake Greenberg open

Jake Greenberg with DLA Piper. I represent the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and Dr. Baric.
2026-04-10 09:00 Harry Kazenoff

This interview will be conducted in two parts. The first portion of the interview will be conducted in an unclassified setting. Only unclassified information will be discussed during the first portion. We will not intentionally ask a question during the first portion of the interview that we believe could implicate classified information. However, if a question is asked that would require you to disclose classified information in your answer, or if you are genuinely unsure, please state that for the record and we will re-ask the question in the second portion of the interview. At noon, we will recess and the witness and properly cleared majority staff and witness counsel will relocate to the Office of Senate Security where the second portion of the interview will be conducted in a sensitive DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com compartmented information facility. Do you have any questions about how we plan to proceed?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No.
2026-04-10 09:00 Harry Kazenoff open

There is a court reporter taking down everything that is said and will make a written record of the interview. Please provide a verbal response. For the record to be clear it is important that only one person speak at a time. Do you understand?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I do.
2026-04-10 09:00 Harry Kazenoff open

Counsel will have an opportunity to review the transcript and provide an errata expeditiously following the interview. We want to make clear that we are only bound by Senate and Committee rules and not any common law privilege, rules of civil procedure, or any equivalent extrinsic doctrines. Do you understand?

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