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Private channel session 1595

10 messages over 1h 6m, 2021-08-16 – 2021-08-16.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-08-16 17:08 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.991
    On the topic of on-point emails, this reply from Jezza is pretty darn spot on too - everything he says, well, all playing out. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-08-16 at 5.07.59 PM.png]
  2. 2021-08-16 17:21 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.991
    On the topic of emails. My institution (via our outside council) will produce a written response to the two congressmen that requested to see BossMan. I have attached the draft letter - please keep confidential. One question pertains to emails we would like to include (confidentially) - specifically "Ron's" notes and also Andrew's emails (see attached). These are confidential, but with the likes of Jordan, nothing is every fully certain -so with that in mind, any concerns about us including this email chain? Of course, it's available already, but(unhelpfully) heavily redacted. I'm sure litigation is ongoing though, so the whole thing will probably be public atsome point. Please let me know if you have any concerns about any of this. [shared file(s): Email 2.pdf, Scripps Research Submission to RMs Comer and Jordan 8 16 21 CLEAN.DOCX]
  3. 2021-08-16 17:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.991
    I don't think we should release ANY emails unless we absolutely have to. The problem is that if an email is releasedto one organisation then that acts as a precedent for others to ask. So, I'm strongly against.
  4. 2021-08-16 17:36 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.991
    This is what my lawyers told me.
  5. 2021-08-16 17:37 Andrew Rambaut open PDF p.991
    I have no individual problem with my email going in there - it is exactly what I still believe. But I agree with Eddie. However - one request/suggestion. If you do send emails it is better not to have them as a nested thread so you can see who responded to who. Just have them as individual emails with their own headers. Also remove my signaturefrom the bottom.
  6. 2021-08-16 17:42 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.991
    I agree with Eddie's concern and I flagged this exact issue with the lawyers. The difference here being that we're dealing with a confidential response to congress and not entities like US RTK.That said, I'm in agreement with Eddie's concern, so let me relay that to our lawyers - I think they'll chose to _not_ include based on that feedback. (Emails 1 and 3 will be included, but they're already public unredacted).
  7. 2021-08-16 17:51 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.991
    I just don't believe these emails will stay confidential
  8. 2021-08-16 17:52 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.991
    That's my concern too. To be clear though - they might well already have them.
  9. 2021-08-16 17:53 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.992
    (because, presumably, the intelligence community already have them - which is fine, I still find it annoying these were so heavily redacted)
  10. 2021-08-16 18:14 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.992
    Scripps letter is all fine with me. Yes, you can be sure that Tony gave the Intelligence Community the unredactedemails from February 1, 2. Based on a conversation that I had with the FBI and CIA I'm sure they have had everything (excepting this Slack channel) for some time, including the Bloom emails.