COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 1416

9 messages over 2h 4m, 2021-05-22 – 2021-05-22.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-05-22 06:33 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.854
    RaTG15 Spike - 658 DITKARTSSTPA 669 S1/S2 junction - haven't run the analysis but guessing that there are O-linked glycan sites.
  2. 2021-05-22 06:39 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.854
    My response to Betsy McKay at WSJ: It's a big deal - in terms of the origins "debate." It's a major arrow taken from the quiver of lab leak proponents and snapped into bits. Bloom, Chan and other Science letter signees have make a major issue that Shi had not released these mine virus sequences. The DRASTIC krewe even more obsessive regarding the mine viruses. The repeat of the claims of acover-up are likely coming (cue ominious questions: why not release sooner/are the sequences now fake?). Seems to me that Shi herself had enough and put the sequences out there.It shows that WIV was not covering up a mine virus that was closer to SC2. Like RatG13 none of the new viruses could have been used to engineer SC2 (make a chimera) or derive SC2 by other types of "GoF research." The mine viruses are interesting, but not a priority [so many viruses, so little time]. The paper confirms that that even among related sarbecoviruses there is a lot of diversity in spike, particularly [butpredictably based on other CoVs] around the S1/S2 junction where SC2 has the FCS.
  3. 2021-05-22 06:50 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.855
    This is good. And worth adding - not only did they not cover up these sequences, they're continuing to try and figure out where these viruses come from and how we can be safer in the future.
  4. 2021-05-22 06:54 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.855
    For the unsurprising DISTRACT take on these sequences, look no further https://twitter.com/franciscodeasis/status/1395898890294026243?s=21
  5. 2021-05-22 06:56 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.855
    "Likes" of that thread includes Sharri Markson...
  6. 2021-05-22 07:12 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.855
    DRASTIC should be considered part of the Murdock media empire - the really dark part - so is the WSJ - the WSJ news division though including Betsy McKay is relatively isolated and have been pretty balanced on C19. Editorial page - not so much.
  7. 2021-05-22 07:51 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.855
    https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1395550790228529152 eDim
  8. 2021-05-22 08:22 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.855
    This is exactly right. Nailed it. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-22 at 8.20.50 AM.png]
  9. 2021-05-22 08:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.855
    Just read the pangolin CoV paper from Joe Grove again - such a great paper. If you haven't already, make sure you read - so weird.https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.436468v1