Private channel session 1355
21 messages over 59m, 2021-05-11 – 2021-05-11.
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Alina complaining that Tucker put words in her mouth. https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1392167148185923594 Hmmmmm A lesson I never really learned too well. "Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
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"I've never said that SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 virus was designed for human-to-human transmission." I don't know man - she might not have said those words directly, however, she has pretty much said this very thing over and over again...
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Yip - over and over and over.
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Serves her right. The Aus govt have just announced that our borders will be closed until mid-2022 so I won't be going to a CCP holiday camp any time soon.
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Mid 2022? Is that instead of vaccinating?
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The vaccine roll-out is going really slowly....glacial. People feel safe on our isolated island with no COVID. It's obviously ridiculous because we'll never eradicate the virus and so will have to bite the bullet at some point, but closed borders and no COVID is a huge vote winner. Totally fucks the universities though.
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Sucks - US has literally more vaccine than they know what to do with, but few Republicans want to take it because -who knows why? - Fauci is a bad man?
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If you open a travel corridor with China (who have zero covid, obviously) then you will be sorted.
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Perhaps I just should suggest that online? Cheap flights to Xinjiang.
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Students into Unis, Profs off to China for all expenses jollies as guests of CCP
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Everyone's a winner!
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Makes sense - China and Australia probably the safest spots on the planet, excepting the really really cold bits. SLACK_000992
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@Andrew Rambaut did you look at the gamey taste price list in that figure I sent? Some great BBQ opportunities.
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Dominic's view on that Science letter - which I suspect is the WHO teams view - is that it is lightweight and has nounderstanding of how things work in China
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The letter is hopelessly naive.
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Hopelessly
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I could be wrong but from what I gather few have any idea what it's like to work in any foreign country whatsoever (unless you count North Carolina).
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Certainly most are naive when it comes to outbreaks....but very disappointed that Worobey decided to go FOMO.
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@Eddie Holmes Yes. Centipede tastes just like shrimp I have heard (probably).
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They will come to regret this.
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*a liitlre cleanerEarly appearance of two distinct genomic lineages of SARS-CoV-2 in different Wuhan wildlife markets suggests SARS-CoV-2 has a natural origin* Robert F. Garry1.2 *Introduction* Our previous commentary on the Proximal Origins of SARS-CoV-2 (Andersen et al., 2020) concluded that, "SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus." The possibility of a laboratory release or Lab Leak was also considered, but it was determined that a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2 is much more likely. Recently, a team of scientists under the auspices of the World Health Organization (WHO) reached similar conclusions (WHO, 2021). Other groups have speculated that SARS-CoV-2 may be the result of undisclosed research on SARS-CoV-2 or a close progenitor and accidental release [Relman, 2020; Butler et al., 2021]. It has also been suggested that SARS-CoV-2 may be the product of laboratory passage of a progenitor virus in cell cultureor animals, or Gain-of-Function research. New data presented by the WHO study provides clear findings in supportof the natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. *Results* The study of SARS-CoV-2 origins conducted by the WHO team provided important new data regarding the role ofwildlife markets in the emergence of SARS-CoV-2. The large Huanan seafood market, which also sold wildlife and wildlife products, was a focus of attention because it was linked to the majority of early cases of COVID-19 inWuhan. The WHO report documented that early cases were not only linked to the Huanan market, but that other early cases were linked to different markets that sold wildlife or wildlife products. Among the first 168 diagnosedcases of COVID-19 in Wuhan with onset date prior to December 31, 2019 and a known history of exposure towildlife markets 55.4% (93/168) reported such exposures. Of the 168 cases, 28% (47/168) had only been to the Huanan market, 22% (38/168) had exposure to another wildlife market and 4.7% (8/168) had exposure to the Huanan market and another market (Annex E2, Table 1 of WHO, 2021).The genetic lineages of SARS-CoV-2 associated with early cases in Wuhan were documented in the WHO report. Previously, Rambaut et al, (2020) noted that at the root of the phylogeny of SARS-CoV-2 are two lineagesdesignated lineage A and B. Early lineage A viruses include SARS-Cov-2 isolate EPI_ISL_529213 sampled on30Dec19 from a person linked to a wildlife market different than the Huanan market (Molecular Epidemiology Table7, sample 13 in WHO, 2021). Linage A viruses share two nucleotides (T8,782 in ORF1ab and C28,144 in ORF8) with the bat viruses RaTG13 and RmYN02 and other sarbecoviruses. It is likely that the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of SARS-CoV-2 shares the same genome sequence as these early lineage A sequences (Rambaut et al., 2020). Different nucleotides (C8,782 in ORF1ab and T28,144 in ORF8) are present at those sites inviruses assigned to lineage B, such as SARS-CoV-2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1 (GenBank accession no. MN908947,Molecular Epidemiology Table 7, sample 06 in WHO, 2021) sampled from the Huanan market on 30Dec19. All virus positive samples from the Huanan market, from venders or customers of the market or from environmental samples, contained SARS-CoV-2 of lineage B. There was limited genetic diversity in the lineage B samples from the Huanan market, which is consistent with the market as a site of a super-spreader event. Lineage A and Lineage B viruses spread throughout Wuhan and to other countries (Rambaut et al., 2020; Worobey et al., 2020).``` ```