Private channel session 1247
35 messages over 3h 54m, 2021-04-14 – 2021-04-14.
A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.
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Looking at this group of people, I don't see any expertise to actually answer questions about origins - nobody with relevant experience.
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".... we also strongly support his exercise of academic freedom and freedom of speech". Can't help but laugh. I really hope I get a chance to talk to a journalist about this at some point... [shared file(s): RE:Dr. Ebright]
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@Kristian Andersen Exactly
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Unless that commission have new data - which of course they don't - it's going to be a complete waste of time
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I propose we set up a new commission to investigate all the commissions
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I hope K you get to talk to a journo or 2 - On that topic Jamie trying to keep in the news https://jamiemetzl.com/10-questions-for-zhao-lijian/ Each of the 10 questions predicated on the grand conspiracy that Shi had SC2 and is covering up and lying. Meanwhile Jamie, Pottinger etc getting the softballs on Fox News and journos like Slate apparently unable to ask Alina a hard question. Makes me want to vomit.
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So, is the idea that they knew there was a lab leak in September and took down their databases then, but didn't actually tell anyone or do anything for 3 months? Seriously?
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"Unable to ask a hard question" - that was essentially what I told Jim - that I was deeply disappointed that he neverchallenged ANY of his subjects with a single relevant question.
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Yes, Eddie. That's what happened.
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Madness. Methhead is also completely wrong about RaTG13.
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Fascinating biology though: those supposed cases at WIV were in November, which means that the initial incubation period was 2 months from the initial lab leak. What an amazing virus.
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Anything is possible, you know.
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Doesn't have to make any logical sense - just has to sound ominous. No science involved at all. I'm convinced that all or most of the Parisites and their sycophants (like Lipstich and Relman) couldn't care less about origins - they are simply looking to be in the news and/or re-litigate old lost battles.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/intelligence-community-actively-investigat[...]lab-as-possible-covid-19origin/ar-BB1fEYdo?ocid=BingNewsSearch The spooks have absolutely less than nothing - including a clue.
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And, someone ? has decided that keeping "pressure" on China over "transparency" is good politics or policy or both.
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Science and logic be damned - so sad.
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So they were doing covert military GOF work but had an online database of the viruses they were using
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1. *Secret WIV Links to Military Research:* Despite the WIV presenting itself as a civilian institution, the WIV hascollaborated on publications and secret projects with China's military. The WIV has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.
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"The United States has criticized China for a lack of transparency at the start of the pandemic and condemned China for spreading baseless conspiracy theories about COVID-19 originating with the U.S. military". But I guess we're in our full right to do the same, correct? Because, you know, we're the US, dammit!
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~T~WIV also published super-secret scientific papers with the CCP army - in the science journals.
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Here's what we got: "Rubio, the vice chairman of the committee, said an accidental lab escape was "plausible" and pointed to some reasons why he thought so, including that "researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology have demonstrated from their publication record that they were skilled at techniques in which they genetically modified bat coronaviruses," as well as that viruses such as SARS have escaped from Chinese labs in the past and that U.S.diplomats warned about subpar biosafety standards at the Wuhan lab in 2018".So to your point Bob, nothing.
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Always a good idea to get your covert GOF work peer-reviewed.
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Ludicrous - but that's not stopping Alina and DRASTIC from taking a victory lap. Berenson and the antivaxxers alsowhopping it up about J&J. Mark on your calendar April 14, 2021 as the highpoint for both :clown_face: colonies.
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But - AB is selling some "books." That is if you consider 39 pages a book. Bullshit, outrageousness, contrarianismsells... [shared file(s): image.png]
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That guy is such a waste of time - loved the Atlantic expo on him.
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Oh for sure - He gonna ride that all the way to the bank thou. The ppl reading his Fox News blessed pamphlets don't also read the Atlantic. But, speaking of the freaking Atlantic where is Ed Yong when you actually need him?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/world/europe/western-vaccines-africa-hesitancy.ht[...]egment_id=55584& ;te=1&user_id=5311bb81c6139baf62a17ce856181bc8 The US will get its vaccines - that's not a problem the problem is the parts of the world where you can't afford or deliver a mRNA vax.
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@Robert Garry Noted
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@Kristian Andersen Please alert me if ONE journalist points out the hypocrisy - I'd settle for 1.
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Ed's busy with giraffes. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/04/how-to-tackle-a-giraffe/606787/
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Can't really blame him to be honest.
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@Kristian Andersen There aren't any - I talked to Jim about this very issue too. Seemed unfazed.
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@Kristian Andersen Truth will out and the tide will turn - but painful in the moment.
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@Kristian Andersen I'm here for the long-game.
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@Kristian Andersen The pandemic has taught me a few important things about "Americans" - one being that most Americans can't think past three months. I don't understand that.