COVID-19 Records

Private channel session 1214

13 messages over 1h 33m, 2021-04-07 – 2021-04-07.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-04-07 17:32 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.686
    They know it's the farming....
  2. 2021-04-07 17:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.686
    It's definitely sounding that way...
  3. 2021-04-07 18:16 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.686
    From Gorman's "FAR AND BALANCED" "reporting." "Whereas many virologists and disease specialists want to collect and study viruses as a way to learn more and be more prepared for outbreaks, Mr. Metzl said he and others wanted more restrictions on virus studies."It absolutely makes sense to establish a global regulatory system overseeing aggressive work with dangerous ordeadly pathogens everywhere," he said.
  4. 2021-04-07 18:17 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.686
    How did Jamie Metzl become the world 's authority on work on deadly pathogens?
  5. 2021-04-07 18:17 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.686
    "more restrictions on virus studies" Yeah that's the ticket!
  6. 2021-04-07 18:21 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.686
    More from the journo:
  7. 2021-04-07 18:21 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.686
    "Did you ever run into a person called Yang Guoxiang, Senior Engineer, Hubei Wildlife Epidemic Source and Disease Surveillance Center - he was on the China side of the China-WHO study team. Stopped by his rescue center yesterday but he wasn't around. The "ayi" at the gate was kind enough to give me his mobile number though. This place is also a wildlife rescue center. It is also right next to the zoo. Some of these wildlife rescue centers inother parts of the country have been very problematic. There's been an ongoing case of an NGO in Beijing suingone of these places [they're affiliated with the Forestry and Grassland Administration, which handles wildlife protection AND use] in Guangxi. That center frequently "rescued" pangolins and then sent them out the back door tocompanies that procured licenses to hold/breed them. Most of the companies had nothing to do with wildlife. One was an energy company. Others were tied to TCM pharma. The people at the one on the outskirts of Shenzhen Iwent to before were very unfriendly when I stopped by a couple years ago and didn't want to talk about any of their activities. They did have a huge [and hugely weird] taxidermy exhibit ..."
  8. 2021-04-07 18:21 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.686
    Wild.
  9. 2021-04-07 18:24 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.686
    Hah - that's crazy.
  10. 2021-04-07 18:24 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.686
    > How did Jamie Metzl become the world 's authority on work on deadly pathogens? I'm glad he confirmed to Jim that this is all about shutting GOF down though - good to know.
  11. 2021-04-07 18:46 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.687
    It's more than just GOF research though. It's all work on deadly pathogens. I think that the fight over shutting down work on viruses is a fight worth having.
  12. 2021-04-07 18:48 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.687
    It's basically virology as a whole... That'll do some good, surely.
  13. 2021-04-07 19:05 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.687
    Other than reducing the burden of disease and increasing the lifespan of the human species what has virology done for us?