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Private channel session 1193

20 messages over 2h 9m, 2021-04-03 – 2021-04-03.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

  1. 2021-04-03 14:28 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.672
    'Derision and obfuscation'? I didn't see a word of that in Kristian's thread.
  2. 2021-04-03 14:42 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.672
    Unbelievable - and to even suggest I'm doing this because it would "impact virology", jesus fucking christ. In fact, it'd be great if this was a lab accident - that way our ready-to-go grants on bioterrorism would be a shoo-inwith the NIH. These people...
  3. 2021-04-03 14:47 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.672
    Data analysis and science-based discussion - if you are a conspiracy theorist, then yes - that's the new derision andobfuscation.
  4. 2021-04-03 14:49 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.672
    Maybe there should be a rule that you actually have had to work in a lab - any lab - to be an expert of "lab leak." Being a bad Sci-FI writer doesn't cut it for me.
  5. 2021-04-03 14:50 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    Genesis Code: A Thriller of the Near Future Kindle Edition by Jamie Metzl Blue Magic, the latest designer drug linked to a rash of overdoses, might explain the needle mark onthe arm of a young woman found dead in her Kansas City apartment. But when _Star_ reporter Rich Azadian digsdeeper, the clues point to a far more explosive story: MaryLee Stock was a special protégée of evangelicalmegapastor and power broker Cobalt Becker, who is poised to deliver his followers and the presidency to a firebrandright-wing senator in the next election. When Azadian sets out to prove that MaryLee's death was no accident and she may have been carrying Becker's genetically enhanced baby, the stakes become life itself.
  6. 2021-04-03 14:50 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    Eternal Sonata: A Thriller of the Near Future Paperback - October 23, 2018 In 2025 America, it's hardly news whena renowned octogenarian scientist dying of cancer disappears from a local hospice, but when _Kansas City Star_ reporter Rich Azadian begins to dig, he discovers that other elderly scientists around the world have alsovanished recently--all terminally ill and receiving the same experimental treatment from a global health company. His investigation leads him to the reclusive Noam Heller, a brilliant researcher exploring new technologies toreverse-age cancer and other cells. Using revolutionary stem cell treatments and snippets of DNA from rare,immortal Arctic jellyfish, his breakthrough promises the genetic equivalent of the fountain of youth.
  7. 2021-04-03 14:51 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.673
    It's interesting how all the biggest idiots are authors... I see a pattern.
  8. 2021-04-03 14:54 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    Indeed - pattern recognition - it's why you are a successful scientist. It's also the only thing that an IQ test actually measures.
  9. 2021-04-03 14:56 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    I'm wondering if the genetically enhanced baby in Metzl's novel is anything like the Captain ~America~ China that the CCP army is building.
  10. 2021-04-03 15:30 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    And - what do you think? Could Yuri-freeze your pet's head-Deigin be the inspiration for "Noam Heller, a brilliant researcher exploring new technologies to reverse-age cancer and other cells." This seems like to be too much asimilarity to just be a "coincidence."
  11. 2021-04-03 15:32 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.673
    That's hilarious
  12. 2021-04-03 15:39 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.673
    The difference between us and Metzl is that we would all agree it is a lab escape if there were convincing scientific evidence for it
  13. 2021-04-03 15:40 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.673
    Correct. And we continue to look very hard for it - it's just, well, there's nothing....
  14. 2021-04-03 15:40 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.673
    The problem of course is that there are :clown_face: like Asher (that Fox News interview with the Super-Soldiersabove is really something to watch) that think yeah super villain virologist, Communist china, scary BSL-4 labs, world domination - all adds up.
  15. 2021-04-03 15:42 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.674
    Or as Alina (note her fascination with magic and Harry Potter) would say - just connect the dots!
  16. 2021-04-03 15:43 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.674
    I'm convinced that Metzl and the other authors are just setting up their next block-buster novel - notoriety sell books.
  17. 2021-04-03 15:44 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.674
    Must be a book, with a movie option
  18. 2021-04-03 15:55 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.674
    Baker, Rowanson, and Ridley all fit that author mold. Then there are the ones on the take. That's Li-Meng Yan ofMiles Gao/Steve Bannon fame and Matt Pottinger, who it does not take to much effort to link to Peter Thiel [not tomention Jeffery Epstein] and other Trumpist White Surpremacists/I never want to die Billionaires.
  19. 2021-04-03 15:57 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.674
    Add Josh Rogan to the "sell a book" to the Trumpers crowd.
  20. 2021-04-03 16:37 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.674
    Add Yuri to that Peter Thiel on the take link.