Private channel session 1174

16 messages over 1h 22m, 2021-03-30 – 2021-03-30.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

2021-03-30 12:35 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.662

I'm wondering how the WHO team is feeling given the statement from Tedros?
2021-03-30 12:47 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.662

@Andrew Rambaut This old thread seems more interesting today.
2021-03-30 12:53 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.662

Miffed.
2021-03-30 12:58 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.662

@Andrew Rambaut Hah, yeah - and Joel's paper adds some nice enough data to this. https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/03/17/science.abf8003
2021-03-30 13:03 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.662

100% politics now
2021-03-30 13:15 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.662

Sad - science and politics are a toxic mix.
2021-03-30 13:23 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.662

Following my little map yesterday and good 'ole triangulation, check out the excess mortality maps. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-30 at 1.21.37 PM.png]
2021-03-30 13:23 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.662

Let me zoom in for you [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-30 at 1.22.03 PM.png]
2021-03-30 13:26 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.662

See how this starts North (right where Huanan market is) of the Yangtze river and then moves South (where WIV) is.This is exactly the same pattern we see from the confirmed case data. Just imagine the kind of effort it would take tofake this data as part of a cover up? Just not believable.I'd say this a win for John Snow - triangulation has worked for a couple of hundred years, turns out it still works.
2021-03-30 13:26 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.663

Same thing happened in the African-American communities in New Orleans - we should write a paper.
2021-03-30 13:28 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.663

We should. I don't understand why this is not part of the report? (or is it - I'm still not all the way through....).
2021-03-30 13:54 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.663

I think I need to avoid all media for 48 hours
2021-03-30 13:56 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.663

I was thinking the same thing. However, I am curious as to what Fauci, Collins etc are going to say.
2021-03-30 13:57 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.663

I'm specifically avoiding the media and just focusing on reading the report in depth... There's a lot of really good stuffin there - maybe I missed all of this in the published literature, but I'm learning A LOT about the early outbreak.
2021-03-30 13:58 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.663

https://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/un-geneva/95960/eu-statement-who-led-covid-19-origins-study_en
2021-03-30 13:58 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.663

EU somewhat better