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Private channel session 933

17 messages over 4h 1m, 2021-02-06 – 2021-02-06.

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  1. 2021-02-06 14:49 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.492
    BTW that tree above suggests to me that the presence of a FCS Is a pretty normal thing for a betacoronaviruses. 4of 5 subgeneses have them. The only one that doesn't [yet] probably under sampled.
  2. 2021-02-06 15:02 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.492
    My guess is that the WHO will either rule out lab escape completely or make vague statements that more data are required. I suspect this will send Alina et al. into fits of rage rather than victory labs. If they do rule it out completely the key thing will be if they make clear statements about why they are excluding it
  3. 2021-02-06 15:53 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.492
    Yeah - I totally agree I meant they would *still* be taking victory labs after the recent op eds in the Telegraph, WashPost, Fox spews etc. It's what they are doing at the moment, but they'll get fresh life for their virology cosplayno matter what WHO team does. I'm not particularly hopeful for clear statements. The little short-lived victories ofAlina and DRASTIC in the court of public opinion will eventually be crushed when the actual natural progenitor ofSC2 is inevitably discovered. They can then go back to their soft core megaporn, erotic writing, freezing puppyheads, etc.
  4. 2021-02-06 16:11 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.492
    shared file(s): Image from iOS.jpg
  5. 2021-02-06 17:08 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.492
    The last thing we need is Brazilians to become dominant.
  6. 2021-02-06 17:10 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.492
    Re: Broad. Is Alina paid via a research grant? She can't be doing any actual science. Is tax payers money funding her campaign?
  7. 2021-02-06 17:41 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.492
    Well, you can give her money here. https://giving.broadinstitute.org/alina-chan
  8. 2021-02-06 17:43 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.492
    I assume federal funding, since that's how most people are paid - e.g., my entire lab. She's with Ben Deverman -https://vector.engineering/team/
  9. 2021-02-06 17:47 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.493
    So, she's doing all this on federal funded time. There's so much it's not after hours work.
  10. 2021-02-06 17:50 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.493
    HFSP - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alina-chan/
  11. 2021-02-06 17:52 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.493
    Perhaps I could ask the Broad Director if it's appropriate for all this to be done on the Broad's and HFSP time?
  12. 2021-02-06 17:53 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.493
    Yup - and to be honest, I'm not sure HFSP would be happy about this...
  13. 2021-02-06 17:54 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.493
    Perhaps I should say that I am following up with them?
  14. 2021-02-06 17:55 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.493
    Not actually sure she's HFSP anymore - so probably NIH finds (although, no where to find out, since those would have gone to Ben). [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-02-06 at 5.54.19 PM.png]
  15. 2021-02-06 17:55 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.493
    [very relevant project to figure out SC2 origins btw...]
  16. 2021-02-06 17:56 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.493
    Ok. I'll think about how to do this.
  17. 2021-02-06 18:50 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.493
    This implies that the WIV will be given the all clear https://apnews.com/article/china-granted-who-full-access-wuhan-52dae25c21db7c80c404251e481f88bc