Private channel session 332

9 messages over 17m, 2020-08-26 – 2020-08-26.

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2020-08-26 17:17 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.147

Is that reinfection story bollocks then Kristian?
2020-08-26 17:23 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.147

I suspect the first one may be - but the one from the US today looks good. Again, we should totally expect reinfections so none of them are surprising - I just get really fucking grumpy when people talk about what we can learn about COVID immunity and vaccines from n=1 studies (some of which might be false positives). It's just idiotic- we learn exactly nothing! (well, we learn that reinfections are possible - but of course they are - we fucking knew that! We need to know frequency and time dependency before we can say *anything* about immunity/vaccines).
2020-08-26 17:25 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.147

I was mostly ticked off by so many people saying "oh, this is totally normal, it's textbook immunology and the case clearly shows that immunity works". Total bollocks - let's hope that's the case, but we just don't know and ifreinfections are a frequent occurrence then that _is_ a huge issue from an epidemic control perspective.
2020-08-26 17:26 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.147

Agree. n = 1 is ridiculous.
2020-08-26 17:26 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.147

Also, the sun: what is good for? [shared file(s): image.png]
2020-08-26 17:27 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.147

Aaaaaaahahahahahahahaha, that is AMAZING!!!! Soooo funny!
2020-08-26 17:29 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.147

I just hate those quiescent states. So annoying!
2020-08-26 17:30 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.147

I know - wtf man! Spewing those viruses our way! Not fair, really not fair.
2020-08-26 17:34 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.147

Apparently, the Wuhan Institute of Virology were manipulating sun spots in the lab. Devious fuckers.