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title: Private channel session 1490
description: "slack conversation, 27 messages, 2021-06-07."
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A slack conversation of 27 messages spanning 2h 22m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-06-07T15:46:03
- **Ended:** 2021-06-07T18:09:01
- **Duration:** 2h 22m
- **Participants:** 4
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 930-932

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-06-07T15:46:03] Andrew Rambaut:** Sorry Kristian, your career is up in smoke... [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-06-07T15:46:43] Andrew Rambaut:** By the way, does anyone know who my handlers are? I would like to have a word (and some money).

**[2021-06-07T15:46:59] Kristian G. Andersen:** Crap man! I have gotten a couple of emails about my career being over too. Twitter career maybe.

**[2021-06-07T15:47:37] Kristian G. Andersen:** I'll have a handler Thursday onwards - and we already know Eddie has Jezza...

**[2021-06-07T15:48:03] Andrew Rambaut:** I would quite like a handler. Tell me what to do.

**[2021-06-07T15:48:05] Edward C. Holmes:** Hang tight man

**[2021-06-07T15:48:22] Edward C. Holmes:** I'd like a pimp

**[2021-06-07T15:48:32] Kristian G. Andersen:** I am one.

**[2021-06-07T15:48:55] Edward C. Holmes:** :sunglasses:

**[2021-06-07T15:49:14] Edward C. Holmes:** There should be pimp and handler emojis

**[2021-06-07T15:52:08] Robert F. Garry:** I'm apparently a Simp as in ComSimp - close enough? BTW - there's a very good chance that the gentleman in the gif is wearing raccoon dog. Just saying...

**[2021-06-07T16:02:31] Edward C. Holmes:** If they do find it to be a raccoon dog then I think we should do a group photo shoot wearing raccoon dog furs

**[2021-06-07T16:08:57] Robert F. Garry:** For Ian the conversion would be simple. Pimple to pimp.

**[2021-06-07T16:22:11] Robert F. Garry:** Posting this likely to proved the ComSimp label, but: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/06/01/wuha-j02.html One of the reporters mentioned Michael R Gordon - He did the WSJ article on the supposed intel about the 2-3 sick WIV employees - linked to David Asher and Mike Pompeo. He and the other reporter wrote a story in the NYT that was a major factor in US starting the first Iraq War. This was Judith K Miller. Here from the Wiki: "_The New York Times_ determined that several stories she wrote about Iraq were inaccurate, and she was forced to resign from the paper in 2005.[2] According to commentator Ken Silverstein, Miller's Iraq reporting "effectively ended her career as arespectable…

**[2021-06-07T16:27:02] Kristian G. Andersen:** WSWS isn't exactly my main go to for news, but they have had a few really good articles lately. Hippies fightingback!

**[2021-06-07T16:27:40] Robert F. Garry:** Gordon, Wade, McNeill - starting to see a bit of a pattern...the guy that busted Gordon/Miller - Robert Parry - can't make that up. https://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/21/another-nyt-michael-gordon-special/

**[2021-06-07T16:28:14] Edward C. Holmes:** I hate to keep going on about it, but the claim that WIV were working on pangolins pretty much proves they are lying

**[2021-06-07T16:31:50] Robert F. Garry:** Parry died in 2018 - another investigative journalist Brian Deer [the one that took down Wakefield] possibly could give this a go.

**[2021-06-07T17:16:50] Kristian G. Andersen:** Good to see Jason on it - and also with quotes from Mike. This is *very strictly* between us, but here's a snippetfrom an email exchange I had with Mike earlier today...I say we get him to sign our letter... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-07 at 5.15.02 PM.png]

**[2021-06-07T17:26:19] Edward C. Holmes:** Huge!

**[2021-06-07T17:27:31] Edward C. Holmes:** He's just emailed me

**[2021-06-07T17:30:03] Kristian G. Andersen:** I guess he just emailed all of us... That's nice - I can fully forgive scientists who realize they were wrong, admit it,and then move on. I'm not surprised Mike would be that person out of the lot. He still owes me a beer. Eddie, do you want to email him back since I just talked to him on a separate thread?

**[2021-06-07T17:31:43] Edward C. Holmes:** Yes, I'll email him back

**[2021-06-07T17:33:30] Robert F. Garry:** I sent a quick ten worder - please say more Eddie...

**[2021-06-07T17:55:07] Edward C. Holmes:** https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/08/blacklist-claim-australian-research-council-admits-scanning-applicants-for-sensitivities-china-links

**[2021-06-07T18:06:51] Kristian G. Andersen:** Dang! WTF?

**[2021-06-07T18:09:01] Edward C. Holmes:** WTF indeed. Thanks everyone! Hopefully it's the AI stuff they are mainly worried about.
