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A slack conversation of 14 messages spanning 0h 50m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-06-05T15:08:46
- **Ended:** 2021-06-05T15:59:06
- **Duration:** 0h 50m
- **Participants:** 4
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 924-925

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-06-05T15:08:46] Edward C. Holmes:** Science. R.I.P.

**[2021-06-05T15:29:17] Kristian G. Andersen:** shared file(s): question on Fauci emails & an Alina Chan tweet.

**[2021-06-05T15:29:34] Kristian G. Andersen:** Clearly digging... Antonio is such an idiot.

**[2021-06-05T15:34:20] Kristian G. Andersen:** I can see the angle there - "trying to silence the conversation".

**[2021-06-05T15:38:24] Edward C. Holmes:** Exactly. I'll get painted as someone who tried to gag the heroine. If you actually read my email to Lander it clearly says she is entitled to her opinion but that these attacks on my research integrity have crossed the line.

**[2021-06-05T15:39:48] Robert F. Garry:** Anyone in contact with zeynep NYTimes?

**[2021-06-05T15:40:46] Andrew Rambaut:** I had an off-the-record background chat (for about 2.5 hours)

**[2021-06-05T15:42:08] Robert F. Garry:** Impression - mine mixed - I think she's smart but has taken a sip or two of the Alina Kool-aid.

**[2021-06-05T15:42:29] Kristian G. Andersen:** Zeynep seems convinced by the lab leak - I'm assuming her story will be absolutely awful.

**[2021-06-05T15:46:13] Robert F. Garry:** She's Turkish - bringing a high prior that oppressive governments lie and cover-up. Some very convoluted thinkingto back up the prior.

**[2021-06-05T15:46:30] Andrew Rambaut:** I just keep pushing all our points. She tried some nonsense Bayesian thing but clearly doesn't understand that.

**[2021-06-05T15:46:49] Edward C. Holmes:** I declined to talk to her.

**[2021-06-05T15:56:25] Robert F. Garry:** Good to know - she is apparently writing her own long-form version. Hard to guess (beyond) Alina, who she is talking too.

**[2021-06-05T15:59:06] Kristian G. Andersen:** I think Angie might have some background on it...