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title: Private channel session 1398
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A slack conversation of 22 messages spanning 1h 35m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-05-18T12:29:21
- **Ended:** 2021-05-18T14:05:17
- **Duration:** 1h 35m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 834-836

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-05-18T12:29:21] Robert F. Garry:** I'm pretty sure she's after @Eddie Holmes again. [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-05-18T12:35:39] Robert F. Garry:** Maybe she can get a gig with NBC/MSNBC - I would wish her the same luck with that as a former student of mine.

**[2021-05-18T12:39:03] Robert F. Garry:** She really likes the media attention.

**[2021-05-18T13:01:28] Edward C. Holmes:** All explained in Jeremy's book. She'll be disappointed.

**[2021-05-18T13:31:44] Kristian G. Andersen:** I also love her previous comment about how they "sat on it for a week!!!!". Clearly doesn't know how this works...

**[2021-05-18T13:46:34] Edward C. Holmes:** She's evil. The info was sent to the Ministry of Health on the day it was sequenced. At least 3 other groups had the sequence as well (and it has been sequenced by the end of December). The outbreak was only in Wuhan at this point.

**[2021-05-18T13:48:06] Edward C. Holmes:** And there was an order from the National Health Commission on Jan 3rd saying that no information could be released.

**[2021-05-18T13:55:50] Robert F. Garry:** this is simply harassment imo [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-05-18T14:04:04] Kristian G. Andersen:** Stephen got started... Haven't read it / on Zoom all day: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jmvbeZ1_RqQedPmfNKNs7DA_Z9sySsEWgAgZoVKRSWg/edit

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Yes, he sent me that as well.

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Alina is indeed sailing very close to the wind... have documentary evidence so she needs to watch it.

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Shame these viruses aren't closer as it would be great to involve Russia in the conspiracy. [shared file(s): BIORXIV-2021-444362v1-Alkhovsky.pdf]

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Here's an email exchange with my man who is based in Shenzhen (despite the USyd address) from Jan 8th. Pretty instructive I think. Please keep this confidential. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-05-19 at 9.06.07 am.png]

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Kristian G. Andersen:** Very interesting exchange. And by "rumors", no Alina, this does not refer to a lab leak you dummy. Imagine the bloomshitters seeing an exchange like this - it'd blow their minds... (and yet, it's what we see every single time there's an outbreak. Doesn't make it right, but it's how it is).

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Yes, the rumours are about SARS. That was what was bothering them. They lost a lot of face about this in 2002/03and they didn't want to have that again. Bloody obvious that I wanted the data out though!!!

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Kristian G. Andersen:** Haha, yeah, you definitely pushed this the right way - but hey, we'll still blame you for the delay! You and the CCP!

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** I wish I could sue Alina but it will probably do more harm than good. Perhaps I should publish all these emails atsome point.

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Kristian G. Andersen:** All about the long game, all about the long game....

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Totally...I've got a pretty unique record of the first two weeks of Jan 2020. It is all compiled for future use....

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Robert F. Garry:** In this movie you are the hero Eddie. The truth will come out.

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Edward C. Holmes:** I'm rewriting Stephen's draft...need more of our evidence in there.

**[2021-05-18T14:05:17] Kristian G. Andersen:** Thanks Eddie. Hoping I can spend some time on both documents tomorrow as well.