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A slack conversation of 13 messages spanning 2h 43m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-04-12T07:05:30
- **Ended:** 2021-04-12T09:48:30
- **Duration:** 2h 43m
- **Participants:** 2
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 694-695

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-04-12T07:05:30] Robert F. Garry:** ACTUALLY IT IS STILL A CONSPIRACY THEORY https://www.minervanett.no/alina-chan-sars-cov-2-who/lab-origin-is-no-longer-a-conspiracy-theory/378436

**[2021-04-12T07:16:19] Kristian G. Andersen:** "I, for one, was very quickly labeled as a conspiracy theorist, in an attempted shut down of the debate". Nope, you were labeled as such _because_ you are a conspiracy theorist - still are and has nothing to do with "shutting down the debate". Unsavory, indeed.

**[2021-04-12T07:55:05] Robert F. Garry:** https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2021/04/29/crispr-editing-humanity-future/ Let's add provocateur to the phenotype.

**[2021-04-12T07:57:30] Robert F. Garry:** At least Metzl is upfront with calling Shi et al liars: [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-04-12T07:59:03] Robert F. Garry:** Alina just whines about being called a conspiracy theorist - remarkable that she gets "journalists" [loosely defined tobuy into that crap.

**[2021-04-12T08:25:55] Kristian G. Andersen:** Speaking of journalists - I'm talking to Jim in a couple of hours and will tear into him for letting this conspiracy bs get into his paper. It'll be interesting to see how he reacts...

**[2021-04-12T08:26:27] Robert F. Garry:** Well - she doesn't *just* whine - she spreads a shitload of misinformation, e.g. SC2 is perfectly adapted to humans, RaTG13, RmYN02 are fake etc

**[2021-04-12T08:28:44] Kristian G. Andersen:** Not without cost, that's for sure....

**[2021-04-12T08:36:27] Robert F. Garry:** then there is the whole Eddie et al are responsible for genocide thing - but she plays the victim very well (seen that behavior before).

**[2021-04-12T08:59:50] Robert F. Garry:** @Kristian Andersen The Annex to Parisite Letter #2 is actionable libel.

**[2021-04-12T09:03:05] Kristian G. Andersen:** @Kristian Andersen Yup.

**[2021-04-12T09:42:42] Robert F. Garry:** Proves what I [don't] know. Heretofore I thought it was about the science. Now I find out too late that is all about controlling the narrative. Who {WHO] knew? [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-04-12T09:48:30] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah, I saw that tweet yesterday - pretty shocking to put shit like this online.