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title: Private channel session 949
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A slack conversation of 22 messages spanning 3h 20m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-02-09T09:40:01
- **Ended:** 2021-02-09T13:00:09
- **Duration:** 3h 20m
- **Participants:** 2
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 503-505

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-02-09T09:40:01] Robert F. Garry:** I hate to link to this crap, but Yuri and friends wrote a paper: [shared file(s): 2102.03910.pdf]

**[2021-02-09T10:15:30] Robert F. Garry:** @Eddie Holmes Mark them as pissed - and typical Alina it's all about the bribes to reporters etc. [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2021-02-09T10:28:34] Robert F. Garry:** @Robert Garry @Peterfoodsafety is the lead from WHO so I guess I just answered my own question about the frozen fish...

**[2021-02-09T11:01:20] Robert F. Garry:** My expectations were low. It's actually worse than you might expect.

**[2021-02-09T11:27:02] Edward C. Holmes:** Thinking how angry they must be this morning really warms my heart. It's pretty great that the WHO have said that the lab escape idea is not worth further discussion.

**[2021-02-09T11:44:59] Robert F. Garry:** Yes - a bad day for Alina and the DRASTIC krewe. The frozen food thing is weak and looks like a concession to the Chinese. Other than that OK - Hard to listen to the video....

**[2021-02-09T12:01:33] Edward C. Holmes:** Totally agree about the frozen food thing - must be a concession. That and the Thai study is a heavy blow. I'm particularly pleased by the pangolin results. Bob - I couldn't access the Google Doc as I don't have permission.

**[2021-02-09T12:02:36] Robert F. Garry:** Lin-Fa's paper is out. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-21240-1

**[2021-02-09T12:02:41] Robert F. Garry:** https://docs.google.com/document/d/17-2hi7-fNsjE44himeCkm1PoZ7_-ncvpxUlhShZzDCU/edit?usp=sharing

**[2021-02-09T12:02:57] Robert F. Garry:** It says anyone with this link can access the paper..

**[2021-02-09T12:07:14] Robert F. Garry:** I think I have both your gmail and .edu emails as editors. But Kristian is right - sometimes tech uses me instead ofthe other way around...

**[2021-02-09T12:08:52] Robert F. Garry:** Have at it - nothing written in stone - I do think there are some relevant things to add in a timely way to the WHO report including the impact of the Thai and other viruses...

**[2021-02-09T12:13:17] Edward C. Holmes:** Yes, Linfa's paper is another blow to the lab escape looms

**[2021-02-09T12:15:22] Edward C. Holmes:** Loons as well

**[2021-02-09T12:18:03] Robert F. Garry:** The WHO guy is @PeterFoodSafety so I think he might be carrying some strong priors.

**[2021-02-09T12:24:32] Edward C. Holmes:** Good point

**[2021-02-09T12:28:15] Robert F. Garry:** They are clear though - Lab Escape is "extremely Unlikely."

**[2021-02-09T12:42:53] Edward C. Holmes:** :clinking_glasses:

**[2021-02-09T12:43:45] Robert F. Garry:** Does the link work for you now Eddie?

**[2021-02-09T12:56:56] Edward C. Holmes:** It does! Thanks Bob!

**[2021-02-09T12:58:36] Robert F. Garry:** Thank you Eddie - I don't think any of Cambo, Thai and Japan bat papers quite link everything together. Needs to bedone...

**[2021-02-09T13:00:09] Edward C. Holmes:** I agree.