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title: Private channel session 796
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A slack conversation of 15 messages spanning 0h 36m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2021-01-12T21:07:53
- **Ended:** 2021-01-12T21:44:06
- **Duration:** 0h 36m
- **Participants:** 2
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 391-394

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2021-01-12T21:07:53] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah, let's see what you actually dig out of your email and then decide if we should 'leak' some of them or not. Isuspect yes, as we know they _will_ go public and they _will_ be quoted out of context. Much better to lightheartedsteal the thunder from all the buffoons.Btw all this recent evolution observed in SARS-CoV-2 really is a giant :middle_finger:to all the tinfoil hats out there.

**[2021-01-12T21:09:16] Robert F. Garry:** @Robert Garry *@channel Ruff draft:Introduction* SAR-CoV-2 variants carrying multiple mutations have emerged around the world. B.1.1.7 in the United Kingdom acquired 17 mutations, including 8 in spike (Rambaut et al., 2020). B.1.351 in South Africa (Pond et al., 2020) andP.1 in Brazil [ref] represent additional emerging variants with multiple mutations. Among other mutations, B.1.1.7and B.1.351 have deletions in spike. *Methods* The following sequences were included in this analysis:YP_009724390.1 surface glycoprotein [Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus AAP13441.1 S protein [SARS coronavirus Urbani]AAU04646.1 spike glycoprotein [Civet SARS CoV 007/2004]```QHR63300.2 spike…

**[2021-01-12T21:13:14] Robert F. Garry:** @Kristian Andersen the ruff draft I just posted might be a good place for you to insert a few sentences of some pointed language for the tinfoil hats.

**[2021-01-12T21:16:09] Kristian G. Andersen:** I'll take a look Bob - I assume on the GDoc? @Eddie Holmes - I forgot to mention - very interesting about the pangos! Looking forward to seeing some of that data (that'll be another :middle_finger:)

**[2021-01-12T21:19:44] Robert F. Garry:** Yes - that would be good if you want to post a Gdoc. Please use the edited version - the paste didn't go well the first time.

**[2021-01-12T21:22:36] Robert F. Garry:** Suffered a deletion - go figure...

**[2021-01-12T21:22:59] Kristian G. Andersen:** Hang on Bob - which "ruff draft" are you referring to?

**[2021-01-12T21:24:08] Robert F. Garry:** *This one in the thread Introduction* SAR-CoV-2 variants carrying multiple mutations have emerged around the world. B.1.1.7 in the United Kingdom acquired 17 mutations, including 8 in spike (Rambaut et al., 2020). B.1.351 in South Africa (Pond et al., 2020) andP.1 in Brazil [ref] represent additional emerging variants with multiple mutations. Among other mutations, B.1.1.7and B.1.351 have deletions in spike. *Methods* The following sequences were included in this analysis:YP_009724390.1 surface glycoprotein [Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus AAP13441.1 S protein [SARS coronavirus Urbani]AAU04646.1 spike glycoprotein [Civet SARS CoV 007/2004]```QHR63300.2 spike glycoprotein [Bat…

**[2021-01-12T21:25:41] Kristian G. Andersen:** Bob - you and technology... :face_with_rolling_eyes:

**[2021-01-12T21:27:03] Kristian G. Andersen:** Alright... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UMQokOz_gDqE0s9keyI7ES8bC7-55EOFuA4UiznEP08/edit?usp=sharing

**[2021-01-12T21:27:14] Kristian G. Andersen:** Welcome to 2021 - it's awesome :wink:

**[2021-01-12T21:27:37] Robert F. Garry:** I know - :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

**[2021-01-12T21:27:53] Robert F. Garry:** Thanks

**[2021-01-12T21:28:53] Kristian G. Andersen:** I only know one person who's worse than you :computer: - Eric Topol. Mr. Technology himself...

**[2021-01-12T21:44:06] Robert F. Garry:** Yes indeed the new pangos are important. When the Cambobat CoV confirming RaTG13 comes --- also very important. Speaking of Pangos/RatG13 the more I look at the SC2/RatG13 alignment the more I realize Boni/Rambaut were totally spot on, No need to evoke Pango recombination to generate the RBD of SC2. Can get to SC2 spike pretty easily from a RatG13 related SC2 progenitor.