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A slack conversation of 16 messages spanning 1h 12m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-12-10T07:11:04
- **Ended:** 2020-12-10T08:23:08
- **Duration:** 1h 12m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 306-308

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-12-10T07:11:04] Robert F. Garry:** :scream_cat:https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1817796# [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2020-12-10T07:15:28] Robert F. Garry:** Gotta love the graphical abstract!

**[2020-12-10T07:19:41] Kristian G. Andersen:** Any fur farming around there?

**[2020-12-10T07:25:45] Andrew Rambaut:** This is not going well... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/10/decomposing-mink-in-denmark-may-have-contaminated-groundwa ter

**[2020-12-10T07:26:40] Andrew Rambaut:** The response to seeing 12 patients with 4 spike mutations perhaps was a bit rash...

**[2020-12-10T07:27:04] Andrew Rambaut:** And that is a pretty grim picture

**[2020-12-10T07:43:53] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah, they really didn't handle that well... That said, the culling was absolutely the right thing to do IMO.

**[2020-12-10T07:46:11] Andrew Rambaut:** I do agree. But using the 'scary' spike mutation as a reason was not good.

**[2020-12-10T07:46:55] Andrew Rambaut:** But perhaps it was necessary to get it done politically

**[2020-12-10T07:47:01] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah, that was really dumb. To be honest though - I think it was the only way they could get the politicians to wakeup, so they used it as an excuse.

**[2020-12-10T07:47:07] Kristian G. Andersen:** Hah. There you go :wink:

**[2020-12-10T07:48:39] Andrew Rambaut:** I remember when the UK banned mink farming. There was generally widespread support for getting rid of it.

**[2020-12-10T07:48:55] Andrew Rambaut:** But just because it was a shit industry supplying posh people

**[2020-12-10T07:49:34] Kristian G. Andersen:** Same in Denmark - that's the crazy part. All of a sudden people seem to have forgotten that the mink industry isculling millions of mink every year for fur coats... People are not logical.

**[2020-12-10T07:51:00] Kristian G. Andersen:** I suspect this'll be the end of the industry in Denmark though - which is a good thing. The Netherlands already had those plans in place prior to COVID, so that made their culling decision a little easier.

**[2020-12-10T08:23:08] Robert F. Garry:** Hopefully this will be used as a teaching moment - that SC2 is mostly a respiratory virus and that masks and socialdistancing are the best way to prevent spread. Handwashing sure, but fomites are a minor route. That out of mysystem, I completely support this: https://www.newsweek.com/white-house-disinfected-after-trump-exit-1553725