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A slack conversation of 26 messages spanning 3h 16m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-09-14T14:46:56
- **Ended:** 2020-09-14T18:03:18
- **Duration:** 3h 16m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 162-165

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-09-14T14:46:56] Kristian G. Andersen:** Already getting some attention... The long awaited Yan Report. https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X1922Wj0nIW

**[2020-09-14T14:47:33] Kristian G. Andersen:** "If we just ignore all the more recent data, then the data clearly shows this was created in the lab. Sorta".

**[2020-09-14T14:54:48] Kristian G. Andersen:** Here's the PDF in case it disappears again... [shared file(s): The_Yan_Report.pdf]

**[2020-09-14T15:05:34] Edward C. Holmes:** Yes, chatting with Jon Cohen about it now. What total shit.

**[2020-09-14T15:07:16] Edward C. Holmes:** The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers). I'm going to chat the co-authors about whether we want to pursue legal action.

**[2020-09-14T15:08:47] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah, Jon's been emailing - fishing.

**[2020-09-14T15:08:56] Kristian G. Andersen:** Love this part [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 11.31.24 AM.png]

**[2020-09-14T15:09:12] Kristian G. Andersen:** Citation 17 is "Eddie Holmes' CV" :wink:

**[2020-09-14T15:10:03] Kristian G. Andersen:** Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd. We have people like Alina to thank for this.

**[2020-09-14T15:13:18] Edward C. Holmes:** Ugh. I had better call the University lawyers this morning.

**[2020-09-14T15:46:01] Kristian G. Andersen:** Worth pointing out that "Rule of Law Foundation" and "Rule of Law Society" can be found here: https://rolsociety.org/en/ and https://rolfoundation.org/. Worth clicking through and looking at the photos...

**[2020-09-14T15:48:57] Edward C. Holmes:** Brilliant! Totally independent then.

**[2020-09-14T15:49:31] Kristian G. Andersen:** Totally. [btw, this could get ugly, so we might need to respond at some point - but let's see what happens]

**[2020-09-14T15:52:03] Edward C. Holmes:** As I said, I will be contacting the lawyers this morning about the parts that relate to me. I don't think we need tonecessarily respond as a group. I've had enough though.

**[2020-09-14T16:27:18] Robert F. Garry:** https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/e-possibile-creare-un-virus-in-laboratorio-senza-lasciare-traccia-la-risposta-dellesperto_it_5f5f3993c5b62874bc1f7339 "So you rule out that SARS-CoV-2 is a laboratory chimera? we ask him. "Not with the viruses that have been sequenced and reported to date." Are the databases public? "Yes, the sequences can be downloaded. But then, I can't know if the researchers publish every single sequence. How could Iknow? There are millions of virus sequences... " New interview of Baric - in Italian.

**[2020-09-14T16:28:43] Robert F. Garry:** Making the rounds on the conservative underground...

**[2020-09-14T16:30:48] Robert F. Garry:** "We have people like Alina to thank for this." Perhaps Deep Throat himself as well...

**[2020-09-14T16:30:59] Kristian G. Andersen:** Interesting - does Deep Throat know something we don't? The guy has attacked me multiple times for even suggesting that we needed to consider a potential lab connection.

**[2020-09-14T16:54:01] Robert F. Garry:** Precisely - DT does not believe that we noncoronavirologists should have the audacity to suggest anything.

**[2020-09-14T17:04:56] Robert F. Garry:** I wonder if Jon Cohen knows about the connection of the Yan Report to Steve Bannon? https://nypost.com/2020/08/20/steve-bannon-was-arrested-on-chinese-billionaires-28m-yacht/

**[2020-09-14T17:13:14] Edward C. Holmes:** The key question now is who is going to play us in the movie? Matt Lucas is up for me.

**[2020-09-14T17:51:47] Kristian G. Andersen:** Oh, Guo Wengui's boat... Interesting find Bob. Gotta say - the connection here is a little too easy to find, so I'm surprised she used those affiliations. This should be red meat for Jon!

**[2020-09-14T17:54:13] Kristian G. Andersen:** I don't know Eddie... [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2020-09-14T17:54:55] Kristian G. Andersen:** [I just googled Matt Lucas and I'm dying.... :dizzy_face:]

**[2020-09-14T17:59:12] Kristian G. Andersen:** shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 5.56.39 PM.png

**[2020-09-14T18:03:18] Edward C. Holmes:** Bringing Matt Lucas and Chris Hemsworth together in a movie would be brave choice, but one that I think is artistically justified.