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title: Private channel session 259
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A slack conversation of 14 messages spanning 2h 42m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-07-30T07:02:31
- **Ended:** 2020-07-30T09:44:58
- **Duration:** 2h 42m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 121-122

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-07-30T07:02:31] Robert F. Garry:** I agree about the anger increasing - we might all need office blow-up clowns.

**[2020-07-30T07:45:48] Robert F. Garry:** Another point- Deep Throat says that Thomas was "quickly apprised of the situation." This might be "true" on some level and only Clare knows what Rev #2 told her in the private comments to editor box. Worth revisiting Clare'soriginal comments - emphasis in bold: While the Perspective is interesting and timely one of our referees raised concerns (*also emphasised to the editors*) about whether such a piece would feed or quash the conspiracy theories.*Critically, the purpose of our manuscript was not to quash conspiracy theories. Rather, our aim was to carefully examine in a balanced and unbiased manner the evidence for and against a number of possible probable scenarios for the proximal…

**[2020-07-30T07:48:31] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yup, I looked back at those comments as well - I think DT is just overplaying what Clare actually did with that comment. But clearly it was an important part of her decision process - but I assume the comment had to do with the fact that new data would come out, and not about us 'stealing' the idea from others (she wouldn't have shopped itaround with all the other journals if that was the case - she knows us, so no way she'd believe slander like that)

**[2020-07-30T07:54:05] Robert F. Garry:** Agree - clearly she didn't believe it.

**[2020-07-30T07:55:14] Robert F. Garry:** Also tragically Herman Cain who attended Trump's Oklahoma rally maskless has just died of COVID-19. This is huge.

**[2020-07-30T07:58:22] Kristian G. Andersen:** Holy crap, yeah that's pretty big news...

**[2020-07-30T08:12:40] Robert F. Garry:** Also the concern that, "the Perspective would quickly become outdated" has not come to pass obviously...

**[2020-07-30T08:16:59] Robert F. Garry:** I wonder if Trump will change his Twitter pic? [shared file(s): image.png]

**[2020-07-30T08:45:00] Kristian G. Andersen:** From Kathy Leung - those are some narrow confidence intervals... :thinking_face: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-07-30 at 7.41.01 AM.png]

**[2020-07-30T08:45:19] Kristian G. Andersen:** @Andrew Rambaut - any news from your BEAST runs on this question?

**[2020-07-30T09:40:10] Andrew Rambaut:** Just posted a preprint

**[2020-07-30T09:42:49] Kristian G. Andersen:** Online yet?

**[2020-07-30T09:43:03] Andrew Rambaut:** Not yet

**[2020-07-30T09:44:58] Kristian G. Andersen:** ... if only I could see the queue :wink:. I'll be looking for it on my end