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A slack conversation of 12 messages spanning 0h 50m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-06-01T19:35:40
- **Ended:** 2020-06-01T20:26:21
- **Duration:** 0h 50m
- **Participants:** 2
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 47-48

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-06-01T19:35:40] Edward C. Holmes:** https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/nih-halted-study-unveils-its-massive-analysis-bat-coronaviruses "We were going to do full genomes but our funding was cut" :hankey:

**[2020-06-01T19:36:55] Kristian G. Andersen:** "He acknowledged that such an effort would be very costly, but said that compared to the cost of a pandemic, "You're definitely getting a good return on investment."" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/science/coronavirus-bats-wuhan.html

**[2020-06-01T19:37:07] Kristian G. Andersen:** So much bullshit from this guy

**[2020-06-01T19:40:05] Edward C. Holmes:** Unbelievable BS

**[2020-06-01T19:41:35] Edward C. Holmes:** At some point this will need to be called out.

**[2020-06-01T19:42:33] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yup.

**[2020-06-01T20:13:15] Edward C. Holmes:** Shameless. He also posted that paper on bioRxiv AFTER it was accepted at Nat.Comm.

**[2020-06-01T20:18:42] Kristian G. Andersen:** Of course he did - and also only after baiting journalists with his drivel

**[2020-06-01T20:21:07] Edward C. Holmes:** Here are the talking points they sent to the journos. The last 2 in the natural origins bit have got nothing to do with his paper at all. [shared file(s): Talking points Latinne et al. Bat Coronaviruses, China.docx]

**[2020-06-01T20:23:28] Kristian G. Andersen:** Fuck me.

**[2020-06-01T20:25:35] Edward C. Holmes:** I know. What a bollock merchant.

**[2020-06-01T20:26:21] Kristian G. Andersen:** He's gone off the rails - but of course, there seems to be an epidemic of exactly that in this country at the moment. Starting from the very top.