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title: Private channel session 41
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A slack conversation of 19 messages spanning 3h 25m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-05-10T14:08:03
- **Ended:** 2020-05-10T17:33:04
- **Duration:** 3h 25m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 18-19

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-05-10T14:08:03] Edward C. Holmes:** Here's the story - front page. It's about the pangolin paper! Apparently one of the authors has a link to the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences so they get to invoke the Red Army! Where the Chinese military training stealthpangolins? We need to know.'Explosive revelation' = reading the paper.'Fine print' = the acknowledgments [shared file(s): 1273399985.pdf]

**[2020-05-10T14:08:35] Edward C. Holmes:** I'm going to enjoy Yi Guan's response.

**[2020-05-10T14:45:13] Robert F. Garry:** Thanks for sharing Eddie - so much nonsense. Main problem is it will be like crack cocaine on steroids to the conspiracy theorists lurking in the underbelly of the Internets- the same 5% that caused Mikovits' book to sellout onAmazon.

**[2020-05-10T15:00:50] Robert F. Garry:** OTOH If you ignore it - it may well go away - they literally had ABSOLUTELY nothing to pin on you other than you have done some important scientific work with Chinese scientists.

**[2020-05-10T15:27:05] Kristian G. Andersen:** OMG this is so hilariously dumb.

**[2020-05-10T15:32:04] Edward C. Holmes:** Spectacular. Badge of honour to be attacked by the Murdoch press. I'm just going to ignore it.

**[2020-05-10T15:35:23] Kristian G. Andersen:** They have absolutely nothing. It's really, really, dumb - as in something seen in the Fox News comments.

**[2020-05-10T15:39:49] Edward C. Holmes:** They read the Acknowledgements. There are strong links between The Tele and Fox News. The lead journo - Sharri Markson - was on the Tucker Carlson thing

**[2020-05-10T15:41:20] Kristian G. Andersen:** Yeah - they keep talking about the Acknowledgements - I mean, do they actually understand what they are? How garbage like this can actually end up in a 'newspaper' these days is beyond me. Concentrated stupidity.

**[2020-05-10T16:09:30] Robert F. Garry:** I like the idea of stealth pangolins. Maybe add in a little genetic engineering to turn them into a more effectiveweapon? Relatively simple to do if you have the scientific resources of the whole Red Army at your disposal.Substitute the keratin in the scales with spider dragline silk, which is more durable than Kevlar - then load then upwith exotic coronaviruses. We all should just surrender now.

**[2020-05-10T16:12:15] Edward C. Holmes:** I agree Bob. Did you see that Singapore robodog? I think they missed a brilliant opportunity to use pangolins instead. Not even Black Mirror have thought of that. https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/roaming-robodog-tells-singapore-park-goers-to-keep-their-distance-20200509-p54rcs.html

**[2020-05-10T16:16:42] Robert F. Garry:** Does it have offensive capabilities? Jeez - are we only a few years from sentinels? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_%28comics%29

**[2020-05-10T16:18:50] Edward C. Holmes:** It is genuinely spooky.

**[2020-05-10T16:22:31] Edward C. Holmes:** Did you see this paper? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32373995/?dopt=Abstract

**[2020-05-10T16:23:51] Kristian G. Andersen:** After reading the abstract, I don't think I really need to?

**[2020-05-10T16:27:31] Edward C. Holmes:** That's as far as I got as well.

**[2020-05-10T16:49:39] Kristian G. Andersen:** https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-researcher-peter-daszak-funding-politicization-of-science-warning-202 0-05-08/

**[2020-05-10T17:11:14] Edward C. Holmes:** :face_vomiting:

**[2020-05-10T17:33:04] Robert F. Garry:** ditto