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A slack conversation of 17 messages spanning 1h 11m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2020-05-04T16:01:46
- **Ended:** 2020-05-04T17:13:43
- **Duration:** 1h 11m
- **Participants:** 3
- **Source:** [slack_pm](/sources/slack-pm.md)
- **Pages:** 8-10

# Participants

* [Andrew Rambaut](/people/andrew-rambaut.md)
* [Edward C. Holmes](/people/edward-c-holmes.md)
* [Kristian G. Andersen](/people/kristian-g-andersen.md)
* [Robert F. Garry](/people/robert-f-garry.md)

# Transcript

**[2020-05-04T16:01:46] Edward C. Holmes:** Let's hope the reviewers see this. That's the great thing about bioRxiv - if you're a reviewer you can get most of itdone just by following a few threads on Twitter.

**[2020-05-04T16:07:09] Robert F. Garry:** Eddie - I've been asked to do an interview with one of your local TV stations. I'm guessing Kristian turned them down. Too bad I think with Kristian as our "face" we could get to 50K pretty fast.

**[2020-05-04T16:11:56] Kristian G. Andersen:** It seems our score might have hit a plateau - similar to the US COVID-19 curve... Talking to the House tomorrow -that might ultimately lead to a boost.

**[2020-05-04T16:12:46] Edward C. Holmes:** Which TV station is that? I turn down everything.

**[2020-05-04T16:14:51] Robert F. Garry:** that what i figured - i look it up...

**[2020-05-04T16:15:15] Kristian G. Andersen:** ABC... TV AND radio - on a Sunday! I don't work on shabbat!!!

**[2020-05-04T16:15:51] Edward C. Holmes:** Oh the ABC are ok. The BBC equivalent.

**[2020-05-04T16:20:56] Kristian G. Andersen:** From this otherwise excellent overview - wtf?? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-05-04 at 4.19.57 PM.png]

**[2020-05-04T16:20:59] Kristian G. Andersen:** https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-020-01315-7/d41586-020-01315-7.pdf

**[2020-05-04T16:21:39] Kristian G. Andersen:** Do people honestly think magic will save us? Several good quotes by Bob and Andrew though :wink:

**[2020-05-04T16:30:49] Edward C. Holmes:** I'm 100% certain he said a lot more than that - and was very reasonable - but the journo has just picked specific quotes and chosen the context. That particularly Nature reporter has form and I refuse to talk to him.

**[2020-05-04T16:54:36] Robert F. Garry:** Yes - but the article also says that OC43 caused the 1898 Russian flu. I thought it was H3N8. Is this true aboutOC43 or don't we know. OC43 has a furin site and O-glycans.

**[2020-05-04T16:56:01] Edward C. Holmes:** There can't be any evidence it is OC43, surely?

**[2020-05-04T17:03:56] Robert F. Garry:** circumstantial and speculation is all it seems.

**[2020-05-04T17:11:57] Robert F. Garry:** https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7112090/

**[2020-05-04T17:13:25] Robert F. Garry:** Drosten sorta comes out and says it too. "The emergence of HCoV-OC43 in humans was proposed to be linked to a host-switching event around the year 1890, a time that coincides with a pandemic of respiratory disease recorded inhumans (Vijgen et al., 2005, 2006)."

**[2020-05-04T17:13:43] Robert F. Garry:** OC43 is intersting...