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A email conversation of 52 messages spanning 27h 43m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2010-11-17T17:46:00
- **Ended:** 2010-11-18T21:29:23
- **Duration:** 27h 43m
- **Participants:** 7
- **Source:** [reading_room](/sources/reading-room.md)
- **Pages:** 202-362

# Participants

* [Cyndi Burrus-Shaw](/people/cyndi-burrus-shaw.md)
* [Kathy Hudson](/people/kathy-hudson.md)
* [Lawrence A. Tabak](/people/lawrence-a-tabak.md)
* [Rajesh Ranganathan](/people/rajesh-ranganathan.md)
* [Richard J Hatchett](/people/richard-j-hatchett.md)

# Transcript

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message [ JJ erred in pointing you t ur domain and frankly, not a r NIH staff who d learn about litics around you have a ony sent me n detail to the [ should I reached out, ve mentioned

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard > ------ End of Forwarded Message > iks um AI

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Cyndi, > Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on > Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Thanks, Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message [ JJ erred in pointing you t ur domain and frankly, not a r NIH staff who d learn about litics around

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on >> Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, Richard > > ------ End of Forwarded Message

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) ork for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard > ------ End of Forwarded Message > you have a better understanding of what Francis has in iks

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Cyndi, > Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on > Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Thanks, Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message 164-06 (received date ated 2ring for investigators in this field are to create cDNA I know UNC-Chapel Hill you know where this was

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message [ JJ erred in pointing you t ur domain and frankly, not a r NIH staff who d learn about litics around you have a ony sent me n detail to the [ should I reached out, ve mentioned

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard > ------ End of Forwarded Message > iks um AI

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Cyndi, > Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on > Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Thanks, Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message [ JJ erred in pointing you t ur domain and frankly, not a r NIH staff who d learn about litics around

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on >> Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, Richard > > ------ End of Forwarded Message

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) ork for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Cyndi, >> Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p >> on Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Thanks, >> Richard > ------ End of Forwarded Message > you have a better understanding of what Francis has in iks

**[2010-11-17T17:46:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Cyndi, > Ms. Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President) can do 12:00p on > Monday, but not 11:00a. Would this work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Thanks, Richard ------ End of Forwarded Message SO we Can re

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, >> Cyndi >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> 1). Many thanks. ork for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, >> Cyndi >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. > Best, > Cyndi > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. >> Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, Cyndi >>

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. >> Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, Cyndi >>

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. > Best, > Cyndi > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** >> Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, >> Cyndi >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> 1). Many thanks. ork for Dr. Ranganathan? >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, >> Cyndi >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. > Best, > Cyndi > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. >> Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, Cyndi >>

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) >> Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. >> Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. >> Best, Cyndi >>

**[2010-11-17T17:50:00] unknown:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Yes - that is fine. Dr. Ranganathan will be there on 11/22 at 12:00 pm. Please confirm that the location is still the same (EEOB, 421). Many thanks. > Best, > Cyndi > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be a ¥ mu come a few ). Many thanks. work for Dr. Ranganathan? appropriately prepared? On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: Cyndi, Rajesh -- > Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the > discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? > Best, > Richard > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: to be ne a few 1). Many thanks. ; work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: Cyndi, Rajesh -- > Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the > discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? > Best, > Richard > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be a ¥ mu come a few ). Many thanks. work for Dr. Ranganathan? appropriately prepared? On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: Cyndi, Rajesh -- > Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the > discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? > Best, > Richard > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: to be ne a few 1). Many thanks. ; work for Dr. Ranganathan? > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Richard: > Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested > in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." > < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: >> Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few >> minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, Richard >>

**[2010-11-17T20:50:57] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: Can you give me some background on what Ms. Avery is likely to be interested in hearing about. Is there anything I should know about MCMI to be appropriately prepared? On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." < @nss.eop.gov> wrote: Cyndi, Rajesh -- > Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the > discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? > Best, > Richard > -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T21:02:12] Rajesh Ranganathan:** 7ou come a few 1). Many thanks. ork for Dr. Ranganathan? > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > > Rajesh > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." @nss.eop.gov wrote: > Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the >> discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, >> Richard >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-17T21:02:12] Rajesh Ranganathan:** 7ou come a few 1). Many thanks. ork for Dr. Ranganathan? > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > > Rajesh > On 11/17/10 5:55 PM, "Hatchett, Richard J." @nss.eop.gov wrote: > Cyndi, Rajesh -- >> Thanks for being flexible. Ms. Avery was very interested in joining the >> discussion. We'll meet in her office (EEOB 426) but why don't you come a few minutes early and meet me in 421? >> Best, >> Richard >> -----Original Message-----

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed > that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense > initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ > contacted me). > I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and > I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be coordinated with you in that regard…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Rajesh, Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ contacted me). I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be ll be or coordinated with you in that regard as…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping > (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI > (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ contacted me). > see she is a ies of our I think she'll be most interested to sures D funds for f other pull been calling rojects are y or 'e of the active t we are doing will be of -maintain to be fungible Heidi's goal out how what we maceutical he'll be > I'm actually in…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed > that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense > initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ > contacted me). > I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and > I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be coordinated with you in that regard…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed > that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense > initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ > contacted me). > I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and > I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be coordinated with you in that regard…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Rajesh, Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ contacted me). I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be ll be or coordinated with you in that regard as…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping > (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI > (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ contacted me). > see she is a ies of our I think she'll be most interested to sures D funds for f other pull been calling rojects are y or 'e of the active t we are doing will be of -maintain to be fungible Heidi's goal out how what we maceutical he'll be > I'm actually in…

**[2010-11-18T08:51:35] Richard J Hatchett:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Rajesh, > Sorry, I should have clarified that in our initial exchanges, as I assumed > that was the context in which JJ spoke with you. We have an overlapping (and in fact prior) interest in CAN because of the President's biodefense > initiative, and I was taking advantage of JJ's intro to contact you on MCMI (I hadn't heard that you'd been selected for the position before JJ > contacted me). > I'm actually in the late stages of negotiating a move to BARDA (the Biomedical Advanced Research & Development Authority) as deputy director and > I don't think JJ knew this when he spoke with you. It will be good to be coordinated with you in that regard…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser ot moved to Richard thinks f aying anything We have an overlapping s biodefense >you on MCMI re JJ A (the see she…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President), who now wants to join in and the meeting got moved to > Monday to accommodate her schedule.…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President), who now wants to join in and the meeting got moved to > Monday to accommodate her schedule.…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser ot moved to Richard thinks f aying anything We have an overlapping s biodefense >you on MCMI re JJ A (the see she…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President), who now wants to join in and the meeting got moved to > Monday to accommodate her schedule.…

**[2010-11-18T18:51:00] Rajesh Ranganathan:** > Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) > Kathy: > Some background for you (I was able to tell Larry in person)..Tony sent me to JJ McGowan, who thought that Richard Hatchett, currently on detail to the > White House is someone I should talk to because he might have the skill set to help with NCTS. I checked in with Larry and we agreed that I should > certainly meet such people and hear them out. So, when Richard reached out, I agreed to go down to the EEOB to meet him. He appears to have mentioned > that he is meeting me to Ms. Heidi Avery (Deputy Homeland Security Adviser to the President), who now wants to join in and the meeting got moved to > Monday to accommodate her schedule.…

**[2010-11-18T21:29:23] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: We have discussed this internally amongst a subset of the exec. Team and the consensus is that it is too early for us to have a conversation about CAN, not yet having implemented anything related to CAN. Furthermore, I have only been here 2+ weeks and hence would be out of my depth with respect to MCMI. The main concern is that we would be wasting Ms. Avery's time. It would be unfortunate to risk any dampening of enthusiasm around what CAN could achieve by having a briefing at this high level prematurely. Would it be possible at this point to diplomatically request that the meeting with Ms. Avery be postponed to a later date, when we are…

**[2010-11-18T21:29:23] Rajesh Ranganathan:** Medical Countermeasures Initiative (MCMI) Richard: We have discussed this internally amongst a subset of the exec. Team and the consensus is that it is too early for us to have a conversation about CAN, not yet having implemented anything related to CAN. Furthermore, I have only been here 2+ weeks and hence would be out of my depth with respect to MCMI. The main concern is that we would be wasting Ms. Avery's time. It would be unfortunate to risk any dampening of enthusiasm around what CAN could achieve by having a briefing at this high level prematurely. Would it be possible at this point to diplomatically request that the meeting with Ms. Avery be postponed to a later date, when we are…
