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A email conversation of 52 messages spanning 1141h 28m.

# Metadata

- **Started:** 2013-09-26T22:17:00
- **Ended:** 2013-11-13T11:45:00
- **Duration:** 1141h 28m
- **Participants:** 26
- **Source:** [gates](/sources/gates.md)
- **Pages:** 82-626

# Participants

* [Alan Guttmacher](/people/alan-guttmacher.md)
* [Christopher Austin](/people/christopher-austin.md)
* [Daozhong Jin](/people/daozhong-jin.md)
* [Eric ) Goosby](/people/eric-goosby.md)
* [Francis S. Collins](/people/francis-s-collins.md)
* [Gary Gibbons](/people/gary-gibbons.md)
* [Gray Handley](/people/gray-handley.md)
* [Gregory Germino](/people/gregory-germino.md)
* [Gretchen Wood](/people/gretchen-wood.md)
* [H. Clifford Lane](/people/h-clifford-lane.md)
* [Harold Varmus](/people/harold-varmus.md)
* [Hugh Auchincloss](/people/hugh-auchincloss.md)
* [Martha Somerman](/people/martha-somerman.md)
* [Melanie Bacon](/people/melanie-bacon.md)
* [Robert Eiss](/people/robert-eiss.md)
* [Roderic Pettigrew](/people/roderic-pettigrew.md)
* [Roger Glass](/people/roger-glass.md)

# Transcript

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, lam delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. In that you comment 1) the state of ad discussion. 2eping flexible ry, this format yject Manager for Strategic Planning and Engagement in lam asking Eric to Details on the lunch are forthcoming. Please feel free to contact Rob with any I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:17:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:18:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:18:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:18:00] Francis S. Collins:** Very helpful. In that you comment 1) the state of ad discussion. 2eping flexible ry, this format yject Manager for Strategic Planning and Engagement in lam asking Eric to Details on the lunch are forthcoming. Please feel free to contact Rob with any As the schedule Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the…

**[2013-09-26T22:18:00] Francis S. Collins:** Dear colleagues, I am delighted you are able to join the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Monday, October 7, from 11:15 AM-12:30 PM, to take place in the Medical Board Room of the NIH Clinical Center. Attached is the program for the visit, outlining the agenda for the roundtable discussion. The topics are based on conversations with staff from the Global Health Program at the BMGF. I had an opportunity to review the agenda briefly with Bill at the Lasker Awards ceremony (where he and Melinda received the Lakser~Bloomberg award) last week. He is very much looking forward to the discussion. Based on Bill's preferences, we are organizing the roundtable as a conversation, rather than…

**[2013-09-26T22:37:00] Robert Eiss:** 

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**[2013-09-27T06:34:26] Robert Eiss:** Dear Daozhong, Attached is Dr Collins' note on the discussion roundtable with Bill Gates that Dr Tabak and Dr Hudson will join

**[2013-09-27T08:47:36] Robert Eiss:** Gray, Are there materials we can send Eric on the implementation science partnership ? Would Melanie Bacon by the person to reach out to Thanks

**[2013-09-27T08:47:36] Robert Eiss:** Gray, Are there materials we can send Eric on the implementation science partnership ? Would Melanie Bacon by the person to reach out to Thanks

**[2013-09-27T08:48:00] Robert Eiss:** Gray, Are there materials we can send Eric on the implementation science partnership ? Would Melanie Bacon by the person to reach out to Thanks

**[2013-09-27T08:48:00] Robert Eiss:** Gray, Are there materials we can send Eric on the implementation science partnership ? Would Melanie Bacon by the person to reach out to Thanks

**[2013-09-27T08:48:00] Robert Eiss:** Gray, Are there materials we can send Eric on the implementation science partnership ? Would Melanie Bacon by the person to reach out to Thanks In that you comment 1) the state of 2d discussion. 2eping flexible ry, this format yject Manager for Strategic Planning and Engagement in lam asking Eric to Details on the lunch are forthcoming. Please feel free to contact Rob with any

**[2013-09-27T12:08:00] Gray Handley:** I would have assumed that Eric's own staff would provide these materials since the activities are funded by OGAC. Melanie would be the person to ask about this as she keeps track of these initiatives....but very informally because multiple ICs are actually in charge of their bits and pieces. On the revised visit schedule, wouldn't it make more sense for Francis to have his one-on-one before the press event rather than after? G

**[2013-09-27T12:08:00] Gray Handley:** I would have assumed that Eric's own staff would provide these materials since the activities are funded by OGAC. Melanie would be the person to ask about this as she keeps track of these initiatives....but very informally because multiple ICs are actually in charge of their bits and pieces. On the revised visit schedule, wouldn't it make more sense for Francis to have his one-on-one before the press event rather than after? G

**[2013-09-27T12:08:12] Gray Handley:** I would have assumed that Eric's own staff would provide these materials since the activities are funded by OGAC. Melanie would be the person to ask about this as she keeps track of these initiatives....but very informally because multiple ICs are actually in charge of their bits and pieces. On the revised visit schedule, wouldn't it make more sense for Francis to have his one-on-one before the press event rather than after? G

**[2013-09-27T12:12:00] Robert Eiss:** He does have time with Bill prior to the media roundtable, and then again prior to the leadership roundtable --_| will be updating the agenda to reflect There have been a few instances where the background OGAC staff have provided is outdated, so I'm just trouble shooting in case we have information we could provide

**[2013-09-27T12:12:00] Robert Eiss:** He does have time with Bill prior to the media roundtable, and then again prior to the leadership roundtable I will be updating the agenda to reflect There have been a few instances where the background OGAC staff have provided is outdated, so I'm just trouble shooting in case we have information we could provide

**[2013-09-27T12:18:00] Robert Eiss:** Hi Melanie, I hope things are well Dr Collins will ask Eric Goosby to say a few words about the implementation science partnership, during the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Oct 7 I'm staffing Dr Collins for this May I ask, is there any information on progress, from our end, that we might pass to Eric that may help him prepare? Thanks for any assistance you might be Best

**[2013-09-27T12:18:00] Robert Eiss:** Hi Melanie, I hope things are well -- Dr Collins will ask Eric Goosby to say a few words about the implementation science partnership, during the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Oct 7 I'm staffing Dr Collins for this May I ask, is there any information on progress, from our end, that we might pass to Eric that may help him prepare? Thanks for any assistance you might be Best

**[2013-09-27T12:18:00] Robert Eiss:** Hi Melanie, I hope things are well Dr Collins will ask Eric Goosby to say a few words about the implementation science partnership, during the roundtable discussion with Bill Gates on Oct 7 I'm staffing Dr Collins for this May I ask, is there any information on progress, from our end, that we might pass to Eric that may help him prepare? Thanks for any assistance you might be Best

**[2013-09-27T13:21:00] Melanie Bacon:** Wow - there has been a lot going on, so I'll give you some general info and will attach a list of the current RO1/U01s which we are working on in collaboration. Let me know if you need something else. e NIH began doing limited evaluations for PEPFAR in 2005. e In 2010 we did a collaborative admin supp program where NIH grantees were funded (by OGAC, $10m, and OAR, $3m) to address implantation science topics of particular importance to PEPFAR programming. Six ICs participated: NIAID, NICHD, NIDA, NIMH, NIAAA, NCI, and FIC and 35 -- 1yr supplements were awarded (out of 141 applications -- our investigators really see the importance of this). 18 countries were represented in the research. e…

**[2013-09-27T13:21:00] Melanie Bacon:** Wow - there has been a lot going on, so I'll give you some general info and will attach a list of the current RO1/U01s which we are working on in collaboration. Let me know if you need something else. e NIH began doing limited evaluations for PEPFAR in 2005. e In 2010 we did a collaborative admin supp program where NIH grantees were funded (by OGAC, $10m, and OAR, $3m) to address implantation science topics of particular importance to PEPFAR programming. Six ICs participated: NIAID, NICHD, NIDA, NIMH, NIAAA, NCI, and FIC and 35 -- 1yr supplements were awarded (out of 141 applications -- our investigators really see the importance of this). 18 countries were represented in the research. e…

**[2013-09-27T13:21:00] Melanie Bacon:** Wow - there has been a lot going on, so I'll give you some general info and will attach a list of the current R01/U01s which we are working on in collaboration. Let me know if you need something else. · NIH began doing limited evaluations for PEPFAR in 2005. · In 2010 we did a collaborative admin supp program where NIH grantees were funded (by OGAC, $10m, and OAR, $3m) to address implantation science topics of particular importance to PEPFAR programming. Six ICs participated: NIAID, NICHD, NIDA, NIMH, NIAAA, NCI, and FIC and 35 - 1yr supplements were awarded (out of 141 applications - our investigators really see the importance of this). 18 countries were represented in the research. ·…

**[2013-09-27T13:21:00] Melanie Bacon:** Wow - there has been a lot going on, so I'll give you some general info and will attach a list of the current R01/U01s which we are working on in collaboration. Let me know if you need something else. · NIH began doing limited evaluations for PEPFAR in 2005. · In 2010 we did a collaborative admin supp program where NIH grantees were funded (by OGAC, $10m, and OAR, $3m) to address implantation science topics of particular importance to PEPFAR programming. Six ICs participated: NIAID, NICHD, NIDA, NIMH, NIAAA, NCI, and FIC and 35 - 1yr supplements were awarded (out of 141 applications - our investigators really see the importance of this). 18 countries were represented in the research. ·…

**[2013-09-27T13:35:45] Gray Handley:** A-OK. I would check with Melanie and will copy her here just to save time. Melanie can you pull something off the shelf to help Rob out or would you like some help from OGR? Thanks. Gray

**[2013-09-27T13:40:00] Melanie Bacon:** Hi Gray, I wasn't really sure what he needed, but I just sent this.... Let me know if you think there is something else I should provide. Melanie

**[2013-09-27T13:40:00] Melanie Bacon:** Hi Gray, I wasn't really sure what he needed, but I just sent this.... Let me know if you think there is something else I should provide. Melanie

**[2013-09-27T13:40:01] Melanie Bacon:** Hi Gray, I wasn't really sure what he needed, but I just sent this.... Let me know if you think there is something else I should provide. Melanie

**[2013-09-27T13:45:43] Gray Handley:** Seems just right to me. Rob will let you know if he has any other questions. He is a good guy and we want to help him. Sorry for the duplication. I did not know he had written you already. Many thanks. g

**[2013-09-27T13:45:43] Gray Handley:** Seems just right to me. Rob will let you know if he has any other questions. He is a good guy and we want to help him. Sorry for the duplication. I did not know he had written you already. Many thanks. g

**[2013-09-27T14:09:17] Gray Handley:** As always...>Thanks. Can I call you?

**[2013-09-27T14:09:17] Gray Handley:** As always...>Thanks. Can I call you?

**[2013-11-13T11:45:00] Robert Eiss:** If of interest to Dr Tabak, the following was published in the Financial Times the Friday before last. It's well done http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/dacd1f84-4 1 bf-11e3-b064-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2je9a7qXd November 1, 2013 11:05 am ° ° ° ° ° An exclusive interview with Bill Gates By Richard Waters The internet is not going to save the world, says the Microsoft co-founder, whatever Mark Zuckerberg and Silicon Valley's tech billionaires believe. But eradicating disease just might. << OLE Object: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) >> ©Amanda Friedman Gates photographed at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in Seattle in September Bill Gates describes himself as a technocrat. But he does not…
